Get the term long call out of your head! That’s for AA pilots. Here at UA “Long Call” is a euphemism for RAP. :eek: You will be on SC the start of your reserve period until the end of it.
Example, I was on SC today for 2ish hours, they called to release me and put me back on SC the next day. Can you commute based on rolling SC? Idk, let you know as I experience it more.
They built more SC lines, in my base, tomorrow then they have reserves available. Got to make sure they got everyone!
I suspect I will never see 1000L release on last day of long call going into HDO.:(
YMMV:cool:

Not without your concurrence. See 20-K-3-c-(14).

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Unless your next day is an FDO. If not, they just start you at 1200 and tell you to sit until midnight.

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Be advised when guys are saying the get 18-21 “days off” in slow months they really mean that they were on call for 18 days, had 13 days off and didn’t get called on a few of those days.

But those weren’t “off” days. An off day is where you aren’t required to answer your phone.

True that. But my phone rings on the slopes of Copper Mountain just fine. ;)

We should be friends

Damn, I was off by two months

https://hub.united.com/united-announ...621874799.html

Good guess with FRA

Bets on when the base announcement comes and how close to age 65 you have to be to hold DEN787? Haha

I'm not so sure that there will definitely be a 787 DEN base.
Summer schedule looks like 4 flights using the 787: LHR FRA NRT and IAD. IAD has a 787 Base and the rest of the cities can be staffed with W pairings. It just depends on the commitment United is willing to make to the routes being full year and that airplane sticking on those routes. Right now, LHR is seasonal and could probably be served using a 763. NRT could go 777 like HNL. A lot of options for UA fleet utilization. If they decide to stick with the 787 in Denver, you might see something. I wouldn't take this announcement to the bank though.

Can a 763 do LHR out of DEN? Not guessing it has the performance in the summer.

767 can barely do CDG in the summer from SFO. DEN might be tricky.

DEN787 before the end of the year, for the win! :p.

*you must be 63 years old to be considered for the position :D

For an FO, 64.9 to hold Cpt (reserve)

OE Fini-flights LOL.

Just extend Rwy 8 another 10,000'. Not like there's anything out there.:D

Not now, but within 6 months there will be noise complaints.
A treadmill is the only answer. :p

For new hires today, any updates on how long to get DEN after hire? How long would a junior guy/gal be on reserve in DEN before getting a line?

I believe the last vacancy bid that closed allowed folks with under a year to get a bid to both 737 and A320. The ones to the A320 were junior enough to where they might even be activated into the assignment with less than a year on the property.

Now, that was on the last big bid to finish the staffing for the summer of 2019 and included the opening of the DEN 787 domicile. So, that had some pretty big movement in Denver.

With the airline growing a net 31 aircraft in 2019, I would figure that the similar bid next winter (for the summer of 2020) will likely allow very junior folks to get to Den.

Ironically, moons ago, I got "forced" into DEN as a new hire on the 727 Panel. Of course, I was able to trade that assignment with somebody in the class ahead of me (before I finished my 1st week of indoc). Maybe by the Winter/Spring of 2020 we will be back sending new hires there.

Was there really "...pretty big movement in Denver."?

I thought all the SFO commuters just came back.

“All the SFO commuters”. Not hardly, in fact a very few SFO commuters came back.

I think he may have meant the junior SFO commuters that were newhires within the last 12-18 months.

And maybe some from LAX as well.

I was not referring to people actually moving their household, I was referring to people moving their assignment to Denver. Given how little your seniority historically buys you in Denver, I definitely believe that a vast majority of the DEN based folks are driving to work. If you "have" to commute you may as well commute to where you get more for your seniority (ie SFO).

Now the good news for folks that actually live in Denver (or can at least have a reasonable drive to DIA) is that the Denver base has grown fairly substantially. This means that their seniority now can still be used if they want to commute, but at least now can "buy" you a little more QOL if you want to just drive to work.

Only true if the DEN pilot base grows, as well.

Denver captain positions went from 348 to 420 (appropriate for Denver) year over year (1905V Category Summary). A 20% increase! Only about 1/3 of that was the new 787 category. So we got that going for us.... which is nice.

1. Any educated guesses regarding upgrade time on any platform in Denver for guys who were recently hired 2018-19? I’ve heard Captain is still very senior, 14-15 years, what are the chances it drops down to sub 10 years for guys who have been hired in 2018-19?

2. It sounds like Denver may still be possible to get around a year in, is there reason to believe that will continue or was that an anomaly? Any estimates on how long before you could hold a line? How about a line with weekends off?

For a conservative answer you should use the seniority progression report. Look at total retirements and do the math how long it will take to hold Captain in your desired BES. Again this is a conservative estimate. I held Captain in DCA about 24 months before that conservative math said I should. This was based on early retirements, medical outs, and the growth plan for DCA. It’s tough to plan anything in this business, however I suggest you always be ready for a furlough.

There’s also the rumor Frontier will loose/give up some/all their gates. Maybe they’ll just use airstairs and save money? Kirby has talked about “aggressively” going after them.

And rumor two that the 787 will gain a few more destinations.

If either, both or something similar happens, who knows what will happen with Denver. Point is, you won’t know until it happens.

Check out the link below for the DIA Masterplan.

Wow!

https://www.flydenver.com/sites/defa...anBrochure.pdf

I just flew 2 trips with Airbus FO's who've only been here since Oct 18......They got the bid to DEN in Dec and were activated in Apr.:D:D

Ten runways and D and E concourses. That’s a lot of skiing.

And ANOTHER terminal! North AND south terminals.

I missed that one the first time I looked at it.

Don't worry though, they will still send 95% of the departures off 34L. Money lines FTW!

[QUOTE=APC225;2852903]Ten runways and D and E concourses. That’s a lot of WEED.

Fixed it for you.....😬

Ha, yea, I meant to say that’s a lot of "skiing".

Plans for the D and E concourses were already planned/shelved when the airport opened in 1995. It’s been almost 25 years and they’ve only somewhat expanded the other concourses...I for one would love to see it happen soon, but it hasn’t in 25 years, so...

Sooo, you’re saying there is a chance. 😁

I love flying in and out of DEN. Rarely any delay (save for a huge blizzard) and comfortable terminals. If we could only fix the boarding process to avoid the masses lining up 30 mins prior to boarding and blocking the thoroughfares. They have de-icing down to a science. I'm sure some of you will beg to differ. I always have a good experience there. I guess it helps that I love Colorado in general, and I wish my wife would let us move back. I'm so weak.

Guess you don't do much summer time flying with the afternoon and into the evening T-storms? When even one arrival/departure gate gets shutdown and messes up the whole thing?

And yet we have other hubs that are worse. It's simply a collateral side effect of air travel now days. Not specific to anyone airport, nor hub for that matter.

Except if there is one cloud in the sky they shut down the whole gate and slow you 100 miles out. Exaggeration but only a little.

I’d say that’s pretty much right on the mark! :)