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06-12-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by prex8390

Deep in the article sounds like it said no structured interview required. So is this the first 141-Legacy actual, legit flow? Or do I just need another cup of coffee this morning.

I went to UND, can I go back??

https://www.grandforksherald.com/new...athway-program

Much like the agreement with the other school, AND the CPP's. The initial language is vague at best. And will probably be subject to multiple additions and changes.

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UND will be able to delay a student's career progression from UND instructor to regional FO. This is a manpower tool for the university to retain the instructors

UAL and UND have announced an agreement subject to the whim (i.e. Manpower retention) of Express CPA carriers.

Agreed.

CPP = carrot dangle/retention scheme at the regionals.

This and others = carrot dangle/retention scheme at the college level.

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This is significant as a conditional job offer is being made, subject to the above hoops, to an unqualified applicant. It appears that pilot hiring is being farmed out to the universities. Traditionally, a UAL captain (ALPA member), has been a part of the pilot hiring process, I wonder how this will change that dynamic.

Exactly.

Which means the prospective pilot can consider themselves on probation from day 1 of starting the UND program to end of year 1 at UAL. Assuming they make it there of course.

06-12-2018, 02:18 PM

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I went to UND, can I go back??

Yeah, seriously, can we? Class of '02, former intern while there...Nothing but the cold shoulder since the day I published my app.

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06-12-2018, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by John Carr

Exactly.

Which means the prospective pilot can consider themselves on probation from day 1 of starting the UND program to end of year 1 at UAL. Assuming they make it there of course.

Not to mention the argument over pass travel and line seniority

06-12-2018, 10:16 PM

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I talked to a current student there. He said they announced they need 150 Multi (basically forcing them to become MEIs unless they have the money to shell out for the additional 129 hours outside of the TCO), then they go to the partner regional until they get 2500 turbine, then into United.

06-12-2018, 11:35 PM

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Does that 2500 turbine require any PIC time?

06-13-2018, 05:41 AM

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Does that 2500 turbine require any PIC time?

He didn’t say. That’s what I was wondering. With some regionals struggling to get people into the left seat, it would make sense.

06-13-2018, 08:24 AM

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Does that 2500 turbine require any PIC time?

The ATCA program doesnt, and that’s straight from piston to UAL newhire.

I don’t see how they’d make it a requirement with this program since the pilot will get some ACTUAL 121 experience.

06-13-2018, 08:29 AM

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Maybe I missed it so apologize in advance. My question is: Doesn’t every pilot hired here have to have an ATP? And if that’s the case wouldn’t they already have their 500 of PIC?

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06-13-2018, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bifff15

Maybe I missed it so apologize in advance. My question is: Doesn’t every pilot hired here have to have an ATP? And if that’s the case wouldn’t they already have their 500 of PIC?

Cheers,
Biff

Im proably misreading on what they meant regarding PIC/TPIC hence my post

06-13-2018, 09:55 AM

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Maybe I missed it so apologize in advance. My question is: Doesn’t every pilot hired here have to have an ATP? And if that’s the case wouldn’t they already have their 500 of PIC?

Cheers,
Biff

Yeah one omitted and assumed letter on my part tripped you and others up. My apologies.

I was wanting to know if 121 TPIC would be required. If the regionals hire only FOs and don’t require them to upgrade, how will they source their Captains? My guess is it’ll require some left seat 121 time before leaving these regionals.