Go Back   Airline Pilot Central Forums - Find your next job as a Pilot > > >
 

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 06-12-2018, 02:46 PM   #11  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
Deep in the article sounds like it said no structured interview required. So is this the first 141-Legacy actual, legit flow? Or do I just need another cup of coffee this morning.

I went to UND, can I go back??


https://www.grandforksherald.com/new...athway-program
Much like the agreement with the other school, AND the CPP's. The initial language is vague at best. And will probably be subject to multiple additions and changes.


Quote:
Originally Posted by awax View Post
UND will be able to delay a student's career progression from UND instructor to regional FO. This is a manpower tool for the university to retain the instructors


UAL and UND have announced an agreement subject to the whim (i.e. Manpower retention) of Express CPA carriers.
Agreed.

CPP = carrot dangle/retention scheme at the regionals.

This and others = carrot dangle/retention scheme at the college level.

Quote:
This is significant as a conditional job offer is being made, subject to the above hoops, to an unqualified applicant. It appears that pilot hiring is being farmed out to the universities. Traditionally, a UAL captain (ALPA member), has been a part of the pilot hiring process, I wonder how this will change that dynamic.
Exactly.

Which means the prospective pilot can consider themselves on probation from day 1 of starting the UND program to end of year 1 at UAL. Assuming they make it there of course.
John Carr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 03:18 PM   #12  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Booker's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 253
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by prex8390 View Post
I went to UND, can I go back??
Yeah, seriously, can we? Class of '02, former intern while there...Nothing but the cold shoulder since the day I published my app.

Last edited by Booker; 06-12-2018 at 03:39 PM.
Booker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 06:22 PM   #13  
You look like a nail
 
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 7
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Carr View Post

Exactly.

Which means the prospective pilot can consider themselves on probation from day 1 of starting the UND program to end of year 1 at UAL. Assuming they make it there of course.
Not to mention the argument over pass travel and line seniority
Thor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2018, 11:16 PM   #14  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 205
Default

I talked to a current student there. He said they announced they need 150 Multi (basically forcing them to become MEIs unless they have the money to shell out for the additional 129 hours outside of the TCO), then they go to the partner regional until they get 2500 turbine, then into United.
captande is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 12:35 AM   #15  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: 737
Posts: 1,186
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by captande View Post
I talked to a current student there. He said they announced they need 150 Multi (basically forcing them to become MEIs unless they have the money to shell out for the additional 129 hours outside of the TCO), then they go to the partner regional until they get 2500 turbine, then into United.

Does that 2500 turbine require any PIC time?
WhiskeyDelta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 06:41 AM   #16  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 205
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
Does that 2500 turbine require any PIC time?
He didnít say. Thatís what I was wondering. With some regionals struggling to get people into the left seat, it would make sense.
captande is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 09:24 AM   #17  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta View Post
Does that 2500 turbine require any PIC time?
The ATCA program doesnt, and thatís straight from piston to UAL newhire.

I donít see how theyíd make it a requirement with this program since the pilot will get some ACTUAL 121 experience.
John Carr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 09:29 AM   #18  
Are those Magic Grits?
 
bifff15's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 473
Default

Maybe I missed it so apologize in advance. My question is: Doesn’t every pilot hired here have to have an ATP? And if that’s the case wouldn’t they already have their 500 of PIC?

Cheers,
Biff
bifff15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 09:35 AM   #19  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bifff15 View Post
Maybe I missed it so apologize in advance. My question is: Doesnít every pilot hired here have to have an ATP? And if thatís the case wouldnít they already have their 500 of PIC?

Cheers,
Biff
Im proably misreading on what they meant regarding PIC/TPIC hence my post
John Carr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2018, 10:55 AM   #20  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: 737
Posts: 1,186
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bifff15 View Post
Maybe I missed it so apologize in advance. My question is: Doesnít every pilot hired here have to have an ATP? And if thatís the case wouldnít they already have their 500 of PIC?

Cheers,
Biff

Yeah one omitted and assumed letter on my part tripped you and others up. My apologies.

I was wanting to know if 121 TPIC would be required. If the regionals hire only FOs and donít require them to upgrade, how will they source their Captains? My guess is itíll require some left seat 121 time before leaving these regionals.
WhiskeyDelta is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
 

 
Reply
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Read 'em & weep. oldmako United 25 01-19-2016 03:53 PM
United Fleet Plan 2016 bottoms up United 18 12-22-2015 11:30 AM
United: Growth plans on little expenditure EWRflyr United 44 04-26-2014 06:07 AM
"Jeff Smisek needs to step down" APC225 United 24 11-27-2013 06:49 AM
American Eagle ALPA & AA APA Strike bgmann Regional 31 11-19-2011 08:33 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:11 PM.


vBulletin® v3.9.3.5, Copyright ©2000-2018, MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1