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jdebrey 06-11-2018 08:32 PM

UND, United Airlines announce pilot pathway p
 
Wow, big stuff just announced.

UND, United Airlines announce pilot pathway program

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...fc3de7368.html

John Carr 06-11-2018 08:42 PM

Yep, pages worth

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/u...ouncement.html

MasterOfPuppets 06-11-2018 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdebrey (Post 2612653)
Wow, big stuff just announced.

UND, United Airlines announce pilot pathway program

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...fc3de7368.html

Yeah......so big we started talking about it a week ago....

Itís still on the first page....Címon man:cool:

awax 06-11-2018 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdebrey (Post 2612653)
Wow, big stuff just announced.

UND, United Airlines announce pilot pathway program

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/sta...fc3de7368.html

Yes, big stuff! :D I'm guessing that you're being facetious, but if not, why is this "big stuff"?

You pay for flight training and a degree at UND, then you're required to stay at the university for a "required amount of time" (per the announcement), then you get to go to a regional partner, and then I quit reading. It seems like the a normal career progression except you're pinning all options on the health of one airline. A clear win for UND as they get a carrot to keep instructors around for a while. Everyone else, not so much.

Milksheikh 06-11-2018 11:08 PM

Still not as good as the ATCA one where you skip the regionals altogether and go right to United from Cfi. Apparently delta is cooking one of these up too.

oldmako 06-12-2018 04:19 AM

That strikes me as idiotic. For the Captains anyway.

prex8390 06-12-2018 05:39 AM

Deep in the article sounds like it said no structured interview required. So is this the first 141-Legacy actual, legit flow? Or do I just need another cup of coffee this morning.

I went to UND, can I go back??


https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4459063-und-united-airlines-announce-pilot-pathway-program

WhiskeyDelta 06-12-2018 06:40 AM

UND, United Airlines announce pilot pathway p
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milksheikh (Post 2612711)
Still not as good as the ATCA one where you skip the regionals altogether and go right to United from Cfi. Apparently delta is cooking one of these up too.

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cal73 06-12-2018 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2612783)
Deep in the article sounds like it said no structured interview required. So is this the first 141-Legacy actual, legit flow? Or do I just need another cup of coffee this morning.



I went to UND, can I go back??





https://www.grandforksherald.com/new...athway-program



Haha
Itís all in the...


...Timing.

awax 06-12-2018 02:40 PM

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Students who graduate from UND's aviation school will be required to stay for a period of time after they graduate for a commitment to the school before they can move on to one of United's regional partners, Capt. Mike McCasky, managing director of flight training at United Airlines, said Monday.
UND will be able to delay a student's career progression from UND instructor to regional FO. This is a manpower tool for the university to retain the instructors


Quote:

Each participating United Express partner has its own CPP requirements that pilots would have to meet to be considered for job openings with United Airlines. CPP pilots who continue to meet program criteria at the regional level eventually would be placed in United Airlines' first available new hire class.
UAL and UND have announced an agreement subject to the whim (i.e. Manpower retention) of Express CPA carriers.

Quote:

United Express, United's regional branch, partners include CommutAir, Mesa Air, Air Wisconsin and ExpressJet Airlines.
Whipsaw much?

Quote:

Once a UND student is accepted into the program, no further structured interview is required with United. As long as the company is hiring pilots, UND students, who remain eligible, would be offered conditional employment with the airline.
This is significant as a conditional job offer is being made, subject to the above hoops, to an unqualified applicant. It appears that pilot hiring is being farmed out to the universities. Traditionally, a UAL captain (ALPA member), has been a part of the pilot hiring process, I wonder how this will change that dynamic.


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