United Orders 4 Boeing 787-9's and 25 EMB-175
07-17-2018, 05:07 PM
#131
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Scope is not up for sale.
Q2 numbers showed a 7% rise in CASM YOY. Putting 70 seats into an E-175 AND capping the number of airplanes to 102 (which they’re at) only worsens the CASM problem.
Bring those airplanes to mainline and they can stuff them to designed capacity and have as many as Kirby wants.
Still think we have no leverage?
Q2 numbers showed a 7% rise in CASM YOY. Putting 70 seats into an E-175 AND capping the number of airplanes to 102 (which they’re at) only worsens the CASM problem.
Bring those airplanes to mainline and they can stuff them to designed capacity and have as many as Kirby wants.
Still think we have no leverage?
"That’s also fair, but remember that the work rules and salary at your job and as much under your influence as scope is for the pilots at United. You also have a Union and should be working towards getting your pay and benefits up."
It is the leverage of regional carriers union's I'm referring to, because CALFO doesn't seem to grasp the whole regional airline situation.
Anyways, I've wasted enough time on this thread. Good luck with getting your planes back, and please prove us naysayers wrong.
07-17-2018, 05:34 PM
#132
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Originally Posted by Bellanca
My last reply was a question from comment in response to CALFO's:
"That’s also fair, but remember that the work rules and salary at your job and as much under your influence as scope is for the pilots at United. You also have a Union and should be working towards getting your pay and benefits up."
It is the leverage of regional carriers union's I'm referring to, because CALFO doesn't seem to grasp the whole regional airline situation.
Anyways, I've wasted enough time on this thread. Good luck with getting your planes back, and please prove us naysayers wrong.
"That’s also fair, but remember that the work rules and salary at your job and as much under your influence as scope is for the pilots at United. You also have a Union and should be working towards getting your pay and benefits up."
It is the leverage of regional carriers union's I'm referring to, because CALFO doesn't seem to grasp the whole regional airline situation.
Anyways, I've wasted enough time on this thread. Good luck with getting your planes back, and please prove us naysayers wrong.
Please use your leverage. Tsa: how many new hires are showing up for class? How many experienced pilots are jumping ship for other regionals. You may not realize it, but you have value to your employer. Use it.
07-17-2018, 06:39 PM
#133
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Originally Posted by Scott Stoops
Agree. We have leverage. Negative scope change will never make it past this NC or MEC. Most importantly, I don’t see it ever passing this pilot group. We are far too experienced in the downsides for that to occur.
Either needs to be a nonstarter.
07-17-2018, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
No, you were wronged. It is time of check in.
Both are OAL.
Both are OAL.
07-18-2018, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
It is because your are completely ignorant and clueless to think that regional MEC NC’s have some kind of leverage.
07-18-2018, 04:02 AM
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If scope relax is even mentioned or proposed from Our LEC/MEC’s in this next contract. They immediately need to be recalled and let go.
I have only been here for about 1.5 years , not one single person I have flown with remotely entertains the idea of scope relaxation . It’s a non starter period.
Only a small group of guys compared to our whole list but I feel it’s a voice average for the group . Minus the senior senior guys who only have a few years left. I’m too junior to have crossed paths with them yet.
I have only been here for about 1.5 years , not one single person I have flown with remotely entertains the idea of scope relaxation . It’s a non starter period.
Only a small group of guys compared to our whole list but I feel it’s a voice average for the group . Minus the senior senior guys who only have a few years left. I’m too junior to have crossed paths with them yet.
07-18-2018, 05:43 AM
#139
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Originally Posted by Tpinks
He wasn't wronged because he even said he showed up and their was a Skywest person already there. TOC would go to the Skywest person.
Both the gate agent and Captain may have been wrong but I got left.
07-18-2018, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Word on the street is that the Barton recall had more to do with him calling out the MEC on possible provision deals and scope relief than whatever smoke screen was generated by the LEC. We shall see.
Either needs to be a nonstarter.
Either needs to be a nonstarter.
