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Old 07-21-2018, 05:58 AM
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Kirby reminds me of the democrats. Dems want us to give illegals the right to vote in local elections, soon it's federal elections. just water down the laws and rules until they mean nothing. Incremental roll back... Kirby gonna try and do the same thing with these RJ's. Don't listen to Kirby, but watch what he does very carefully with these and other RJ orders. Be ready for challenges to the rule of law (our cba/scope section). Our elected ALPA leaders need to be united, and vocal as to the importance of our scope language and be ever vigilant for violations, and ready to defend it with all options on the table.
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Kirby reminds me of the democrats. Dems want us to give illegals the right to vote in local elections, soon it's federal elections. just water down the laws and rules until they mean nothing. Incremental roll back... Kirby gonna try and do the same thing with these RJ's. Don't listen to Kirby, but watch what he does very carefully with these and other RJ orders. Be ready for challenges to the rule of law (our cba/scope section). Our elected ALPA leaders need to be united, and vocal as to the importance of our scope language and be ever vigilant for violations, and ready to defend it with all options on the table.

He is already 0 for 1, unfortunately for him he is not dealing with Jay Panarello- he is dealing with Todd Insler.
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Old 07-21-2018, 07:51 AM
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At US Airways/AAL Kirby was almost singularly focused on RJs and Scope gives. He will go at it from every angle. It’s like a game of ‘just the tip’ with that guy. The scope committee had to tell him no means no multiple times.
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At US Airways/AAL Kirby was almost singularly focused on RJs and Scope gives. He will go at it from every angle. It’s like a game of ‘just the tip’ with that guy. The scope committee had to tell him no means no multiple times.

I can guarantee you that Kirby doesn't want to order any new mainline narrow body jets until he gets his scope. Don't fall for his gimmicks.


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Old 07-21-2018, 02:08 PM
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I can guarantee you that Kirby doesn't want to order any new mainline narrow body jets until he gets his scope. Don't fall for his gimmicks.
Aren’t we already getting 162 guppy MAX planes and have another 40 Airbii on the way? Do we need to order more narrowbodies?
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Stay away from Union work please. Scope is not for sale, if you want to run a concession stand bid for EWR and open a street vendor cart it NYC.
Let's try this again. I'll try to use smaller sentences for you.

I am referencing an ARTICLE that made those claims. I am NOT SUPPORTING those claims. I am simply telling you what the company is likely to put out there and what they may be thinking.

Quoting or referencing someone else does not mean that is my opinion.
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Aren’t we already getting 162 guppy MAX planes and have another 40 Airbii on the way? Do we need to order more narrowbodies?
Yes, and YES.
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Old 07-21-2018, 04:39 PM
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Let's try this again. I'll try to use smaller sentences for you.

I am referencing an ARTICLE that made those claims. I am NOT SUPPORTING those claims. I am simply telling you what the company is likely to put out there and what they may be thinking.

Quoting or referencing someone else does not mean that is my opinion.
Stop doing their work for them. The answer is no.
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Old 07-21-2018, 04:47 PM
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Aren’t we already getting 162 guppy MAX planes and have another 40 Airbii on the way? Do we need to order more narrowbodies?

Was referring to SK not ordering the 100 seat jets he really wants. Instead he wants his cake and eat it as well with trying to convince you guys to relax the scope.


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Originally Posted by Swakid8 View Post
Was referring to SK not ordering the 100 seat jets he really wants. Instead he wants his cake and eat it as well with trying to convince you guys to relax the scope.


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He’s made an airline mgt career out of that tune. He will be able to retire a multi-millionaire if he moves the needle in EITHER direction - he knows it won’t go anywhere lol.
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