Percentage of flying done by regionals.
 

I am one in support of facts, and I find the ability of people on the internet to make posts that are fallacious and then have that information gain a life of it's own to be the single biggest failing of the internet. With that in mind here is last month's posting by UCH of RPMS. The point here is that regionals do not carry anything close to what mainline carries in any measure be it passengers or miles, and if you are a subset of regionals you are even a smaller fraction which over the last two decades has changed radically every 5 years or less.

It's all about keeping a healthy perspective . . . on ALL sides.

Awesome.....17.3% for the regionals. No where near half or more.

Now do one by departures.

First of all they don't post that statistic. Second of all it would still be a minor fraction especially when considered on a company by company basis. Your post has no factual basis, but yet you post and people who sympathize with your sentiment shake their head in agreement and the myth continues. Regionals represent a small piece of the pie and to think otherwise is simply not factual.

I am not trying to say mainline pilots are better than regional pilots. What I am trying to show with a simple factual chart is that regional flying is a small piece of the total flying especially when considered on a company by company basis, and what is worse is that the mainline companies have simply ravaged the regionals every few years to get the lowest cost possible for this feed.

When I was 23 I vowed I would never fly a jet for a non-mainline carrier. I got hired off a Beech 1900. If every pilot had the same opinion as mine regionals would never have had a place in history. I don't expect my Utopian view to be popular, but I just hope regional pilots of today can empathize a little better with mainline pilots. No one foresaw 9/11 or age 65 or the financial collapse of 2008 and THAT is really what enabled the 50 seaters and then the 70 seaters to proverbially Take Off. Today we should all be focused on reversing that trend regardless of where we work.

I got to go with Sunvox on this you have smaller passenger loads flying in smaller aircraft on shorter legs, and that woukd definitely increase the percentage of the total departures and arrivals attributable to a regional. And I'm sure they do keep statistics on that, because fitting an a RJ departure or arrival into a busy airport (SEA comes to mind) takes about as much ATC, runway, and taxiway tome as a 737.

I'm not saying the world would come to an end if mainline picked up all the regional passenger miles, and that woukd likely be a good thing for ALL of us if it happened, but based on a per passenger mile basis, RJs represent a disproportionately LARGE PORTION OF THE ATC and facilities burden.

Are you serious?

The only people to blame for RJ's existing is the mainline pilots who sold out scope to keep a few more dollars in their paycheck.

There is no shortage of people wanting to fly for a living. Regionals have classes full until next year. It you create it, it will get staffed.

The only people creating this mess of a system are the greedy mainline pilots saying "eff the scum below me, I got mine." Now there are a few realizing the heavy intl flying is getting farmed out to JV's at the top and the regional jet flying is getting bigger at the bottom saying "oh no guys! let's band together now that my future wb job might be at risk!":rolleyes:

https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg

Are mainline pilots responsible for bankruptcy, lost wages and loss of pensions too?

The only problem I have with this post is the idea that greedy heavy pilots have ruined it for all.

Let me ask this, did you want to be stuck in low paying jobs away from home or did you get take that job with the hope of moving into the big jets? We all know the answer is...

I love to fly and can’t believe I get paid to do it! :eek:

Right!!! :rolleyes:

I have not seen this big bad wolf you describe since arriving here 5 years ago. A very small percentage of any group will be the greedy, get mine, screw everyone else type. Everyone I talk to is pulling in the right direction trying to make the pilot profession better for all. The widebody guys from the 2003 time frame are all gone so it’s like you guys are yelling at someone not even here. I understand you guys are nervous that more scope slip will stagnate your career further but that ain’t happening as long as UA pilots have anything to do with it. It was and is the same concern that 99% of UA pilots share. Mainline pilots understand better than regional pilots do about career stagnation caused by scope slip. It would cause stagnation for 95% of pilots at mainline too. I fly mostly with guys in their last 5 years here and none of them would vote to give away scope further. What regional guys can do to help is to teach the new hires about scope and why any slip causes stagnation to their careers.