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Old 11-08-2018, 01:16 PM   #81  
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Then neither should the 787-8. Our pay banding is a joke and so is Deltaís.

So should we pay less for the 764 and 787-8? Iím sure the company would love that.
Yes the 787-8, 764 and 763 should pay the same.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:22 PM   #82  
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Yes the 787-8, 764 and 763 should pay the same.
Now weíre talking about giving OURSELVES a paycut? Awesome.
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:27 PM   #83  
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Now we’re talking about giving OURSELVES a paycut? Awesome.
The 763 and 777/787-9 and 747 would have paid more for the last 6 years had we not decided a764 should be paid the same as a 777 and 747

Besides it’s not a pay cut if all fleets get a raise but the 777/787-9 and 10 pull away. And the 763 gets a big pay raise.
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The 763 and 777/787-9 and 747 would have paid more for the last 6 years had we not decided a764 should be paid the same as a 777
You sure about that? Not meant to be snarky or sarcastic.
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You sure about that? Not meant to be snarky or sarcastic.
No Iím not but Iím sure the WB rate was held back a little do to the 764 being included
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No I’m not but I’m sure the WB rate was held back a little do to the 764 being included
Negative. The 767-300 was “held back” because the union didn’t want to spend negotiating capital on an airplane “that was going away.” That’s a direct quote I got at a roadshow. The fact that the 767-400 WAS included turned out to be a very good thing when the 747 fleet was parked, otherwise there would have been even fewer of the highest paying CA seats.
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Negative. The 767-300 was ďheld backĒ because the union didnít want to spend negotiating capital on an airplane ďthat was going away.Ē Thatís a direct quote I got at a roadshow. The fact that the 767-400 WAS included turned out to be a very good thing when the 747 fleet was parked, otherwise there would have been even fewer of the highest paying CA seats.
I disagree as we have more than replaced the 747 fleet plus a large margin of higher paying aircraft.

All the 764 does being on the higher pay scale is reduce the amount of pilots that can get a pay raise through their career.

We donít have an intermediate pay aircraft we have WB and NB. In order to get WB pay you have to be sub 3000 as a CA. If the 764 was a pay scale lower then the top of the list would move up and the 767 would become more junior there bu increaseing the amount of pay you get over your career.

But itís just my opinion itís certainly not going to sway my vote on a future TA.
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I disagree as we have more than replaced the 747 fleet plus a large margin of higher paying aircraft.

All the 764 does being on the higher pay scale is reduce the amount of pilots that can get a pay raise through their career.

We donít have an intermediate pay aircraft we have WB and NB. In order to get WB pay you have to be sub 3000 as a CA. If the 764 was a pay scale lower then the top of the list would move up and the 767 would become more junior there bu increaseing the amount of pay you get over your career.

But itís just my opinion itís certainly not going to sway my vote on a future TA.
The goal has always been to have the most seats possible at the highest pay rate.
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764 on top payscale means more total $$ for most # of pilots.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:48 PM   #90  
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366 passengers should pay more than 240. Just sayin!!!
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