Originally Posted by O2pilot (Post 2767040)

Delta is mostly a non-unionized airline. They operate in cities where they can pay their employees much less. Their profits come mostly from that, plus they have farmed out the highest paying pilot jobs to international code-share partners.

Anyone who wants Delta’s annual profit just has to do two things. 1) Convince the other employee groups to leave their unions and take paycuts, 2) Park half our widebody fleet, downgrade all those pilots to lower paying positions, and let Lufthansa and the other carriers do all that flying for us.

Originally Posted by O2pilot (Post 2767040)

Delta is mostly a non-unionized airline. They operate in cities where they can pay their employees much less. Their profits come mostly from that, plus they have farmed out the highest paying pilot jobs to international code-share partners.

Anyone who wants Delta’s annual profit just has to do two things. 1) Convince the other employee groups to leave their unions and take paycuts, 2) Park half our widebody fleet, downgrade all those pilots to lower paying positions, and let Lufthansa and the other carriers do all that flying for us.

Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2767264)

Ironically, I'd hazard to guess that Delta's non-union FA's and Tech Ops professionals are actually paid more (especially when considering PS) than the unionized ones at UAL and AA.

Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 2767302)

You can make more money on paper but have less QOL due to a lack of work rules and job protections. When the next graduating class of bean counters realizes they can do heavy checks cheaper at ::insert city:: it really doesn't matter that you had a good pay rate for a few years.

Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2767346)

OK, but the FA's seem to do pretty well, the Tech Ops actually does quite a bit of outside work in addition to Delta aircraft. They do many midterm inspections on 737's and a bunch of engine work for outside customers.



I don't hear our FA's complaining about QOL either.



I'm not advocating for them to never unionize, but they do pretty well in mean time as the company goes out of it's way to prevent a union drive. Ultimately, the pilots union ends up negotiating many of the improvements that Mgmt has to reciprocate to the other nonunion groups.

Ironically, the nonunion groups have a few things that have not been afforded to the pilots due to not negotiating for it, like holiday pay and PTO for instance.



I was just refuting the previous posters assertion that somehow Delta pays all it's employees substandard wages, that's how they have profit sharing.