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BMEP100 02-25-2019 05:25 AM

Unitriggered (not)
 
What is the definition (historically), for lost flying for “untriggered reassignment”.

Scenario is; your flight is running late. Scheduling breaks your trip and assigns your connecting flight to reserves to keep it on time. Now, you get reassigned to other flying and deadhead and says it is not an untriggered reassignment, when; you could have stayed on your original pairing ( albeit a couple hours late).

So does schedule integrity (on time) protect the company from untriggered reassignment pay?

JoePatroni 02-25-2019 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2769972)
What is the definition (historically), for lost flying for “untriggered reassignment”.

Scenario is; your flight is running late. Scheduling breaks your trip and assigns your connecting flight to reserves to keep it on time. Now, you get reassigned to other flying and deadhead and says it is not an untriggered reassignment, when; you could have stayed on your original pairing ( albeit a couple hours late).

So does schedule integrity (on time) protect the company from untriggered reassignment pay?

“Untriggered” is when they take you off a flight that is not affected by a delay and put you on a flight that is affected. This happens in EWR all the time when an India flight runs late, they reassign the late TLV crew to India because they just showed up and the India crew goes to TLV (shorter flight). The original TLV crew is considered an “untriggered” reassignment but the original India crew is not.

awax 02-25-2019 10:13 AM

That makes total sense.

The New Delhi flight is triggered by a delay affecting their pairing.

The Tel Aviv flight has no delay affecting their pairing, thus the reassignment is untriggered.

On a domestic pairing the operating crew that’s late inbound to a hub - “triggered”. The crew on a 3:59 productivity break at the same hub and that gets reassigned to cover the late outbound from the triggered crew is “untriggered”.

Rawhide51 02-25-2019 10:27 AM

Another example would be narrow body flying into SFO. Last time I got 'untriggered reassignment pay' was BWI-SFO. We were on time, but SFO was on a melt down. There were no reserves left, and I was just going to my layover (1st leg of a 4 day). Instead I ended day 1 in Vegas, with 150% add pay for the rest of the new trip.

BMEP100 02-25-2019 10:31 AM

Okay thanks. That squares with my global experience. First time I’ve run into it domestically.

oldmako 02-25-2019 12:33 PM

https://images.findagrave.com/photos...1404409060.jpg

Duckdude 02-25-2019 01:07 PM

That’s Trigger the horse, not untriggered. Close but no cigar.

oldmako 02-25-2019 02:42 PM

Here. He's untriggered, yet his finger is fondling the trigger. Weird.

https://imgc.allpostersimages.com/im...pg?w=338&h=450

LeeFXDWG 02-27-2019 07:25 AM

Guys and gals,

There’s a great DYK on this very subject in the MEC elibrary from 2014 if memory serves. Just do a search for untriggerd and it should pop up

Lee

Flytolive 03-01-2019 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by BMEP100 (Post 2769972)
What is the definition (historically), for lost flying for “untriggered reassignment”.

Untriggered reassignments occur when you are in your own base prior to starting your assignment and you are reassigned into another pilot's trip, OR you are at a different base and you are reassigned into one of that base’s trip on the first leg of the trip.

https://www.alpa.org/ual/-/media/UAL...aster-file.pdf


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