No Degree
03-03-2019, 03:24 PM
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So I had been fighting this battle for a decade, then I signed up at Thomas Edison State University and finished a degree in 14 months. (I had maybe 24 credits from 15 years ago) It is seriously so easy, just do it. I wished I had a long time ago. Several of the classes I successfully challenged and obtained credit, I got nearly 2 years of credit for flight experience, and hauled butt on the remaining classes. Interestingly, have been applying to the legacies and UPS for years, within 14 days of "checking the box" I got a call.
I just wished I would have done it sooner, it was easier than I ever thought, and I got brushed up on some higher math!
Am I a better pilot now.....nope.....A better employee now......nope. But I guess it matters.
I just wished I would have done it sooner, it was easier than I ever thought, and I got brushed up on some higher math!
Am I a better pilot now.....nope.....A better employee now......nope. But I guess it matters.
03-03-2019, 03:49 PM
#23
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Position: A320 Captain
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Originally Posted by Gloriousprofits
So I had been fighting this battle for a decade, then I signed up at Thomas Edison State University and finished a degree in 14 months. (I had maybe 24 credits from 15 years ago) It is seriously so easy, just do it. I wished I had a long time ago. Several of the classes I successfully challenged and obtained credit, I got nearly 2 years of credit for flight experience, and hauled butt on the remaining classes. Interestingly, have been applying to the legacies and UPS for years, within 14 days of "checking the box" I got a call.
I just wished I would have done it sooner, it was easier than I ever thought, and I got brushed up on some higher math!
Am I a better pilot now.....nope.....A better employee now......nope. But I guess it matters.
I just wished I would have done it sooner, it was easier than I ever thought, and I got brushed up on some higher math!
Am I a better pilot now.....nope.....A better employee now......nope. But I guess it matters.
Thats a great post and should be a Thomas Edison moment for anyone rationalizing not getting the degree.
Out of curiosity...how much money out of pocket was it for youto finish?
03-03-2019, 05:37 PM
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Thanks Pilotgolfer. I used the comprehensive tuition plan, it was about $11,000 for all the school you can take in a year. Challenging the classes is a $150 test fee so its cheaper than taking a class for sure. All in, including books, a MacBook Pro, tuition and fees, I spent about $16,000 plus the $6k-8k or so from many years ago. So a Bachelor of Science in Aviation for about $24k. Never borrowed a dollar. I just wish I would have done it sooner, it was actually kind of fun.
03-03-2019, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Gloriousprofits
Thanks Pilotgolfer. I used the comprehensive tuition plan, it was about $11,000 for all the school you can take in a year. Challenging the classes is a $150 test fee so its cheaper than taking a class for sure. All in, including books, a MacBook Pro, tuition and fees, I spent about $16,000 plus the $6k-8k or so from many years ago. So a Bachelor of Science in Aviation for about $24k. Never borrowed a dollar. I just wish I would have done it sooner, it was actually kind of fun.
03-03-2019, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Haven’t heard lately.
But as recent as 2-ish years ago it was less than 5 hired without. Exclusive of XJT CPP’s.
And one of those hot himself fired
NOT saying the lack of degree had ANYTHING to do with the firing.
Only that to be lucky/fortunate enough to get without it, THEN screw it up.
But as recent as 2-ish years ago it was less than 5 hired without. Exclusive of XJT CPP’s.
And one of those hot himself fired
NOT saying the lack of degree had ANYTHING to do with the firing.
Only that to be lucky/fortunate enough to get without it, THEN screw it up.
03-04-2019, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Airway
Huh...I heard recently that we've canned quite a few newhires. I can't imagine what the heck for.
Can’t show up on time, can’t take direction or critique of any kind, can’t put down their phones. Stuff like that.
03-04-2019, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Airway
Huh...I heard recently that we've canned quite a few newhires. I can't imagine what the heck for.
03-04-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Airway
Huh...I heard recently that we've canned quite a few newhires. I can't imagine what the heck for.
Interesting. You reminded of a captain I flew with a few weeks back. He told me he recently had a ALPA rep on his jumpseat. The ALPA guy told him that the company has been letting go on average one probationary pilot per week and then asked him if he could guess which age group. He never got into the reasons why but you can make a pretty good guess. Also, the rep said that United is acutely aware of the problem and is concerned with future of new hires and what they can do to address this issue going forward. I find all this very interesting because I have a desire to do interviews in the future.
03-04-2019, 07:01 AM
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Decent amount of guys also let go in training ... I say decent cause I don’t want to quote a number but it’s was more that j ever would have guessed . Much of it from older guys having flown the same plane for 15 plus years . You get guys seem to get through training better but have the attitude issues down the line.
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