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Old 09-07-2019, 09:48 PM
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I don’t want SFO Larry hiring a single soul.........

Keep it out of the CPO’s hands...........Pilots hiring pilots ? Yes
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:41 AM
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I’m hesitant to post anything with just a CJO. I’m not sure anything good can come from it. But when I interviewed pilots were involved in the hiring process both in the HR interview and the technical interview.
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Old 09-08-2019, 05:52 AM
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I do hear you.

I like the actual Chiefs doing the interviewing. I like pilots talking to pilots. I recall a 135 interview, a commuter interview, and a major interview. All 3 were run by pilots. Great conversations, great interactions, great experience. We could all relate on the same level and we all understood each other. The respect was mutual and the experiences all made me better.

I think we need to be selective as to who gets in the office. The staff that works in the office I would consider not a player. The assistants and the flight managers should be running the office while the Chief does the interviews.

In my world (and I am ok with being in the minority), the Chiefs job should look like this:

1. hand out atta boys
2. only handle severe discipline
3. supervise assistant chiefs and staff
4. Interviews
5. Avoid all staff meetings and admin queep that you can't fix anyway.
6. buy coffee and donuts for staff
7. Go out and shake hands with the base pilots in the crew lounge 3 to 5 times a day.


Ok, that may be altruistic, but that' ok.
Except for the rare Chief Pilot, many chief pilots are worlds apart from the Line Pilot.

It's not ok.
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Old 09-08-2019, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shrek View Post
I don’t want SFO Larry hiring a single soul.........

Keep it out of the CPO’s hands...........Pilots hiring pilots ? Yes
When I was hired in 2013, Larry was the guy who interviewed me. He definitely had a cold personality.
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Old 09-09-2019, 06:26 AM
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Chief pilots are not pilots....they are management geeks who happens to have a pilot certificate.
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:58 AM
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The above is not necessarily true. It all depends on the person. You must have some bad experiences.
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Old 09-12-2019, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by baseball View Post
I do hear you.

I like the actual Chiefs doing the interviewing. I like pilots talking to pilots. I recall a 135 interview, a commuter interview, and a major interview. All 3 were run by pilots. Great conversations, great interactions, great experience. We could all relate on the same level and we all understood each other. The respect was mutual and the experiences all made me better.

I think we need to be selective as to who gets in the office. The staff that works in the office I would consider not a player. The assistants and the flight managers should be running the office while the Chief does the interviews.

In my world (and I am ok with being in the minority), the Chiefs job should look like this:

1. hand out atta boys
2. only handle severe discipline
3. supervise assistant chiefs and staff
4. Interviews
5. Avoid all staff meetings and admin queep that you can't fix anyway.
6. buy coffee and donuts for staff
7. Go out and shake hands with the base pilots in the crew lounge 3 to 5 times a day.


Ok, that may be altruistic, but that' ok.
You nailed it. Our EWR base pretty much runs that way, luckily.
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Old 09-12-2019, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip69 View Post
When I was hired in 2013, Larry was the guy who interviewed me. He definitely had a cold personality.
I think I know who you talking about. Went to SFO about 2 weeks ago and his name came up allot. Lawrence-Larry? He's no good. Sad to hear we have people like that in the office.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:05 PM
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Yes, unfortunately, Larry is a real piece of work.

His latest, with the runway construction in SFO, he won't grant positive space commuter passes during a major disruption event at SFO. Something the other domiciles do all the time. No idea why.
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Old 09-12-2019, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by baseball View Post
I like the actual Chiefs doing the interviewing.
I see your point... but at an airline this size, they simply have more than enough on their hands working to be excellent "Chief Pilots". Adding this to their plate is just not realistic.

It needs to be done by a group of pilots that are volunteers... have been vetted... and that know how to dig in to a pilot's past through their application, LoR's, and by other resources.

To do the "hiring job" well requires a lot of effort and focus from the interview pilots. The CP's don't have the bandwidth.
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