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RNO Flyer 05-04-2019 08:50 AM

Time to IAH
 
How long does it take for an FO to hold IAH on either the 737 or 320 these days?

UAL97 05-04-2019 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 2814137)
How long does it take for an FO to hold IAH on either the 737 or 320 these days?

It appears that 320 FO went to some fairly new hires on the bid that just closed, so I'd guess within a year currently. I just transferred to IAH on the 320 and am only at about 70% seniority there after being with company for 4 years. It's a very very senior base with little to no movement or growth in all seats and fleets.

CLazarus 05-04-2019 10:47 AM

I know a late Jan 18 hire who made it into IAH for the Jan 19 bid month (737). Hiring has picked up since, so I'd expect somewhat faster so long as it holds up. Best case scenario is perhaps six months on either aircraft. Worst case is well over a year.

drywhitetoast 05-04-2019 12:43 PM

I held IAH 737 FO on the February vacancy bid and still haven't been activated.I think the Max going down may have something to do with the delay. If they wait to the effective date of June 30th it will have be a year to get to IAH.

texaspropguy 05-09-2019 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by drywhitetoast (Post 2814255)
I held IAH 737 FO on the February vacancy bid and still haven't been activated.I think the Max going down may have something to do with the delay. If they wait to the effective date of June 30th it will have be a year to get to IAH.

I think I counted 4 IAH FOs that moved from that seat this bid (mostly to bigger right seats). That, and IAH is at max staffing right now for 73 FOs. Thus, no movement in on the 73 without growth. I may be bidding 320 to get home before I can hold it on the 73 (already looking like a year min and it’s a two year seat lock on first plane).

Ni hao 05-11-2019 09:15 AM

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Andy 05-14-2019 08:49 AM

Odd, the same day that the thread starter started this thread, s/he asked how long it takes to get ATL on the Southwest forum. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/s...-time-atl.html

Not exactly two domiciles in the same zip code.

thrustset100 05-15-2019 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2819928)
Odd, the same day that the thread starter started this thread, s/he asked how long it takes to get ATL on the Southwest forum. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/s...-time-atl.html

Not exactly two domiciles in the same zip code.

Creepy......

Squallrider 05-15-2019 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 2819928)
Odd, the same day that the thread starter started this thread, s/he asked how long it takes to get ATL on the Southwest forum. https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/s...-time-atl.html

Not exactly two domiciles in the same zip code.

No but could be one spouse’s family lives in Houston and one in Atlanta and they are trying to decide between the two. Or they just could be trolling

RNO Flyer 05-15-2019 05:14 PM

Or I live somewhere between the two.

canman 05-22-2019 11:54 PM

I am a new CJO looking to start in the fall. I’ve seen a few recently accepted the B756 to EWR/SFO. If I was to do the same, how long could I expect to get to IAH? I understand it’s quicker though with the A320/B737 to IAH, but what’s a few extra months if it’s doable. Or would I be shooting myself in the foot trying to get to IAH by taking the B756 (if even available)?

jdt30 05-23-2019 01:36 AM


Originally Posted by canman (Post 2824815)
I am a new CJO looking to start in the fall. I’ve seen a few recently accepted the B756 to EWR/SFO. If I was to do the same, how long could I expect to get to IAH? I understand it’s quicker though with the A320/B737 to IAH, but what’s a few extra months if it’s doable. Or would I be shooting myself in the foot trying to get to IAH by taking the B756 (if even available)?

Go with the 320/737. Bid the 756 later.
If you have a choice. Good luck

CLazarus 05-23-2019 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by canman (Post 2824815)
I am a new CJO looking to start in the fall. I’ve seen a few recently accepted the B756 to EWR/SFO. If I was to do the same, how long could I expect to get to IAH? I understand it’s quicker though with the A320/B737 to IAH, but what’s a few extra months if it’s doable. Or would I be shooting myself in the foot trying to get to IAH by taking the B756 (if even available)?

I have a buddy who was hired in Nov 2016 who was able to bid into IAH 756 during the MOAB last December. So, assuming he entered training this spring, he probably hit the line recently or will do so soon. So, 2.5 years is conceivable. Trick is he got 737 out of indoc and was able to bid into IAH on it last spring. So, I agree with JDT30 that bidding 737/AB is the way to go since your bid freeze will probably be up before you can bid 756 into IAH anyways.

beavf16 05-23-2019 07:32 AM

Anyone have insight on the life of a jr 756 guy in IAH? I live in San Antonio.

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LeeFXDWG 05-23-2019 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by CLazarus (Post 2824903)
I have a buddy who was hired in Nov 2016 who was able to bid into IAH 756 during the MOAB last December. So, assuming he entered training this spring, he probably hit the line recently or will do so soon. So, 2.5 years is conceivable. Trick is he got 737 out of indoc and was able to bid into IAH on it last spring. So, I agree with JDT30 that bidding 737/AB is the way to go since your bid freeze will probably be up before you can bid 756 into IAH anyways.

FWIW, there is no training freeze restriction going from 737 FO to 756 FO. See 8-D-1-d. 756 is a higher pay band.

Lee

rightside02 05-23-2019 08:33 AM

Agree with what all else said . Take 737/320 bid and go up when the time comes . For all we know the 757 could shift and takes years to hold .

GoCats67 05-23-2019 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by canman (Post 2824815)
I am a new CJO looking to start in the fall. I’ve seen a few recently accepted the B756 to EWR/SFO. If I was to do the same, how long could I expect to get to IAH? I understand it’s quicker though with the A320/B737 to IAH, but what’s a few extra months if it’s doable. Or would I be shooting myself in the foot trying to get to IAH by taking the B756 (if even available)?

The junior pilot that is currently on IAH 756 and got there via a vacancy bid, is about 1300 seniority numbers from the bottom of the list. Now there a couple of guys junior to that who were able to get to IAH on a base trade (not something to count on).

That same seniority pilot would be a very junior line holder on the Airbus or 737.

Now, movement in IAH has been very slow for the last couple of years (fuel price too low), so the movement picture in IAH has been pretty bleak. This Fall/Winter is supposed to be eye watering in the amount of bids/training that are coming, so hopefully that will create better movement all across the system, not just on the coasts.

GoCats67 05-23-2019 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by beavf16 (Post 2824953)
Anyone have insight on the life of a jr 756 guy in IAH? I live in San Antonio.

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As far as SAT to IAH goes, you are prob just a bit too far to sit Short Call in San Antionio. The call out requirement for Reserves on Short Call is to be able to report in 2.5 hours. That being said, I am sure there are those that do (just prob not while on probation).

The latest routine is for the crew desk to basically give everyone (that doesn't get an actual trip) a Short Call assignment. Those vary in start times throughout the day and are predominantly timed to protect INTL departures that get delayed.

So, based on being over in SAT, being on Reserve would either be a QOL pain in the arse (drive up the road an hour while on short call) or a great deal of time gambling that you don't get a minimum time callout.

If you are actually within 2.5 hours, then the you are in a much less painful situation.

My advice when it comes to commuting to reserve (over 2.5 hours away), not just no, but HELL NO!

CLazarus 05-23-2019 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 2824991)
FWIW, there is no training freeze restriction going from 737 FO to 756 FO. See 8-D-1-d. 756 is a higher pay band.

Lee

Yes! Foot Stomp this!

RNO Flyer 05-23-2019 05:31 PM

Would there be an appreciable difference in time to bid IAH between the 737 and 320?

Rostov 05-23-2019 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 2825290)
Would there be an appreciable difference in time to bid IAH between the 737 and 320?

If your junior to me or senior to me that question has two different answers ;)

LeeFXDWG 05-25-2019 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by RNO Flyer (Post 2825290)
Would there be an appreciable difference in time to bid IAH between the 737 and 320?

Too much depends on how the company manages the min/max.

Just going on the size of the two categories and eventual Max return to flying, iI’d say 737. I’ve flown with a few 2-3 year FOs that got here in less than a year from INDOC. They were both EWR and SFO prior.

But, the 320 base in IAH also went through a downsizing a bit back and EWR really grew significantly.

So, just on size, I’d say 737 has the greatest potential to get there sooner.

Of course management could switch gears at a moments notice and grow the 320 again in IAH.

How’s that for a non-answer?

Lee


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