So true! I think it's partly because with a wife or a long-term partner, there's some in your house to call you out on your own $**t and keep your own a-holeness in check.

I would say her name, but I don’t want it coming back to me.

Ooohhhh.....you mean the pilot.

Or homosexual.

I've only flown with a few gay pilots, but all of them seemed very cool, nice, and either married or in long term relationships.

A large portion are scabs and or gay.

Maybe I misunderstood. I thought she was just doing it out of spite. I stand corrected. Next time I’ll reread the original post. My bad.

Awe, love you guys that are trapped and lash out at those of us that aren’t! Sucks that the only way out for you is giving up half or more of your stuff.

I’ve been married. So not one of your weirdos. On the flip side of your observation almost (key word) every guy I’ve met that’s married is f’ing miserable. Nothing worse than listening to some married guy talk about how he has to get permission to buy something or run it by his wife or anything similar makes me shake my head. Then when you listen to the divorce stories they are even worse. So I cringe when the saps come out of the wood work to try and convince themselves by trying to convince others that married life is awesome.

Nope. You are correct. She does it out of spite, and to me that’s despicable. In no way am I defending the cheater, but the spiteful spouse who takes it upon themselves to dole out “advice” to random people on the internet is ALSO a horrible person. The cheating husband is wrecking ONE family. The social media queen takes part in the ruin of MANY families, indirectly. People should mind their own business, and not make the mistake of thinking all situations are the same. Plenty of marriages survive infidelity. Some are even better AFTER a lot of repair work is done. Many times kids are involved. The person I’m speaking of makes DAILY comments to women telling them how to financially destroy their husbands and wreck their careers, if possible. Yet......she stays with her own cheating husband. I guess that widebody pay is just too much to part with, but it’s ok to suggest it to other women.

I'll second that opinion. Wife sold her car so I could afford to work at airline number 1, now out of business. Put up with my being on the road and coming home tired and sometimes cranky and she still manages to home school the girls with an absentee husband who had 2 airlines, a corporate pilot layoff and thousands of hours as a CFI.
21 years and counting. Some just choose badly, I didn't.

Unfortunately it doesn’t mean they won’t be reproducing necessarily.

Nature still finds a way periodically. Still rooting for you guys to be safe! Each to their own, enjoy what you have while you still have it!

Don’t agree with your second sentences.

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I was working with the assumption that if he is too self-centered to be married he sure as hell wouldn’t purposefully have kids.

And, yes, definitely to each their own. I’ve not once said his life choices were wrong yet he’s so sure of himself given his failure at marriage that it’s wrong for everyone.


GP

You take every opportunity to attack the institution of marriage on this forum and yet I’m the one lashing out? That’s hilarious.

Yes, I’m trapped in a strong, wonderful marriage. I admit it’s not perfect by any stretch of the imagination; no marriage is. But, that’s why both people have to want, strive to make it better on a daily basis.

I’m truly sorry your marriage failed but going through life thinking about nothing but money and self sounds boring to me.


GP

Good for you APC.
Agreed.Life is so much easier...and enjoyable....when shared with someone.

Being the Alpha Male of a pack of one is a lousy position to be in when the “troubled times” come.(and very few lives avoid troubled times)

That's Delta. Or AA or SWA in Phoenix. Lots of Mormons out in the east valley.

A lot of what you wrote is correct, except for this statement.

Any person who is "cheating" with another is not just hurting one family. He or she is affecting the whole chain of relationships that exist between the two. Husbands, children, family, friends often times work, financial and so much more. And these day the social media makes it even greater.

Nobody is an island and nor can they exist without others. It's who we are as humans. The egotist thinks others exist for their pleasure.

Wow, I thought this forum was all about aviation. Since the talk is basically about relations maybe it can switch to boats, cars or airplanes?

When you get a chance, google "Ted Talk Harvard Study". The gist of the 79 year study is that good relationships, marriage, family, community, lead to longer, healthier, happier lives. After 35 years of marriage, I'm ever more grateful that my lovely bride agreed to build a life and family with me. I am anything BUT miserable. Enjoy your solitude if that's what lights your candle.

I’ve been trapped for over 20 years. Paying for a larger house, cars, additional food, clothing, medical expenses, college tuition, etc. works out to a ton of money. I might have a bigger bank account, or better toys if I hadn’t done this to myself, but I’m a richer man because of it. It’s the same reason that I stay in the right seat. I can hold captain in every base, fairly senior in a few, but time at home trapped with my family is worth far more than a few more dollars per hour. If more people put in the time and effort to improve their marriages, they probably wouldn’t give up half their stuff.

One thing I am sure of. Don't take financial or relationship advice from pilots. Of this I am certain.

Hilarious /Ns (NOT sarcastic)

Remind me again about the validity of the Hogan?


And, also if you assume having a wife means assuming you will lose 50% maybe you need to widen the applicant pool. My wife ended up paying off my flight training, and if we split (which 20 years in, I hope will never happen) she would still end up paying me (hint: she doesn't cackle, she has a career). You sound like you are absolutely miserable, and had an absolutely atrocious first marriage, and maybe you should look at yourself before projecting your experience on everyone else.

I had no idea that my original post would bother so many happily married men!!! Why are you trying convince me how grateful you are for your wife? If you have to try and convince anyone how great your marriage is then it most likely isn’t. Especially to ghost on the net.

I sound like I’m miserable because I’m not married, do what I want when I want, don’t answer to anyone and don’t ever want to combine my finances, retirement and property with a woman? Lol. You’re dense. There isn’t anything you can do with a wife that you cant do with a GF and that way you don’t put all your assets at risk. Marriage isn’t necessary for a relationship or happiness. Sorry you had to mooch off your wife to have a successful career. What did you bring to the table?? Debt?? You sound like a real good catch. According to your logic looks like your wife should have widened her applicant pool. But good post pal. You showed me.

You want to talk weirdos. Ever talked on the phone with a friend that has kids...it's like talking to someone with tourette's! :D

I reject the notion that because someone chooses not to get married, that they only care about money or are self-centered. One can have a long-lasting, meaningful, monogamous relationship without getting married. Oddly it's often more financially advantageous for a couple to get married. I'm not against the institution of marriage, and am truly happy for those that find true happiness in marriage. That said, I don't see the need for it and I surely wouldn't get married today without a very solid pre-nup. It's not a matter of being self-centered/greedy, it's about protecting oneself from the unknowns. I've witnessed enough people who were completely blind-sided by their spouses leaving them in their later years (divorce rate among the 50+ crowd has been steadily increasing), leaving them in financial hardship. On top of the associated heartache, financial ruin is not something I'd want to be dealing with, in my 40s/50s/60s.

Edit: Oh ya, don't me messing around if you don't want your crap in proverbial street (FB, et al...).

Well said sir!!!

Ihateyou's entire premise on this subject has been based on protecting his money and being able to do what he wants without permission. So while you may reject those notions, it's almost his exclusive reasons for avoiding it again.

Throwing around absolutes is short sighted. I have met married and unmarried weirdo's with whole football teams of kids or no kids. Running the gamut from extreme religious views to guys that just like to play the field with serious commitment issues. Being married is a choice to being in a committed relationship and can be rewarding. Some marriages implode or people change but that is just life. If you can't be honest with your own commitments then you aren't being honest with yourself either. Apparently a lot of you have life figured out and that is great but life isn't always so nice. Everyone has their journey.

The age of privacy is completely dead. If you are going to act a fool you are going to be known as a fool forever. Your actions are being recorded , logged, taped, and put on display.

I'm willing to bet a good portion of guys who are/were miserably married wed a chick who was hot with fake boobs AND was warned by others she was trouble. Zero sympathy for clowns like that.

Yeah, I am going to not reply to any of this.

you just did!

How about the guy that was "happily" married to a conservative, average looking (real boobs lol), all american type girl that both families (and all their friends) encouraged to marry, who had everyone jealous of their life. Fast forward 20 years to when "their" son is ~18, while still happily married, he finds out that he is NOT the father of said child. Then to see her shock when he wanted a divorce! Of course he's an honorable man/father and still takes care of the child he raised because he'll always be his "daddy."

For every one of your outlandish examples, I'm sure I can find a similar counter.

Edit: Don't take that to mean I think only chicks screw around, many of my examples would be dudes in the wrong. This is just one counter to your ridiculous post

Oh, this is gonna be good. Imma make a cappuccino for this.

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Yum! I'll take one too, please!

This whole thread reads like a bad episode of Jerry Springer meets the three stooges.

I think most women say just about the same regarding men...

I'm happily married with great kids. That being said, I'm envious of and hate my rich single friends. :rolleyes:

Technically correct, but I was going to go in detail, and decided passive aggressive not to.

Done and done!

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Man marry hoping she won't change, woman marry hoping he will.

I guess I got lucky