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Old 06-12-2019, 01:08 AM   #31  
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No you missed the point about the attitudes of those dissing on the retired men and women of this Corp. It, the retiree pass redaction, began after the merger and if you remember correctly the former CAL had even more ominous SA policies.

Essentially we dumped on the only gift given to anyone who retired from this outfit, all in the name of “me.” Because no one should have an unfair advantage over me. If that isn’t ego I don’t know what is.

But enough about boats, cars and airplanes let’s talk about me. Remember that old joke about male pilots?

For those interested in the current retiree boarding priority here it is from the FT web site.


“Your board date is a calculation of completed days, months and years of service to the company subtracted from your travel date. Retirees and early-out participants have a board date in a day, month and year format. If two retirees have the same board date, their Pass Riders are cleared for the flight based upon time of check in.”

“The calculation is based on the days, months and completed years of service to the company:

(Years of service x 365 days) + (Months x 30 days) + days = total number of days”

From the Q&A for pass travel and retirees.

Just about to purchase another discount ticket anyway.
Another pointless thread.
The changes came about after ALL the employees were surveyed, I personally don’t believe a retiree should have a lower boarding priority but using a strict DOH penalizes someone with more YOS- that’s wrong.....nothing to do with “me.”

Seniority and YOS rule this whole career, pass riding isn’t any different....nothing to do with ego.
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Old 06-12-2019, 04:31 AM   #32  
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Seniority and YOS rule this whole career, pass riding isnít any different....nothing to do with ego.
Joe your right itís just the hard cruel parts of life. Donít honor anyone who goes before us, no gifts, no nothing for the retirees, and nothing special just pull the plug.
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:54 AM   #33  
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Joe your right itís just the hard cruel parts of life. Donít honor anyone who goes before us, no gifts, no nothing for the retirees, and nothing special just pull the plug.
The vacation pass issue is still the single biggest rub for most people because people perceive it as ďcutting in line.Ē I just donít agree with giving super seniority for boarding to someone because theyíre retired. Again, I think it was BS to give them a LOWER boarding priority too because THAT diluted their years of service.

Retirees still get vacation passes that evens out the boarding priority when they use them.....I think.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:00 AM   #34  
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Travel is no longer a benefit. It's more a crap-shoot. Non-reving should be called Non-flying. In the last 8 years, I have been on the JS about half of the time that I have flown, and not by choice. Want to take your special lady friend along? Goooooooood luck.

I think that we need to get out of the mindset that we have travel benefits. As for me, pay me more and I'll just buy tickets.
Lol, sounds like you travel during spring break, known hard destinations during summer months, and major holidayís. Of course itís a benefit. You just have to be smart about when and how you travel. Otherwise, yes, but a ticket. Of my 40 years of non-reving, 2/3 of that traveling under a parent that was in the industry, has it always been perfect, no. Have I had to two leg it at times, or sleep in an airport because I didnít make it, yes. However, the vast majority I have made there and back no problem...due to traveling smart. To say itís not a benefit that if seats are open to Paris in FC, and you literally last minute book it for you and whoever, fly there for free in FC...ummm, Iím missing something.
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