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Legacy500 06-17-2019 06:41 AM

E175 order
 
Would like to see these at main line.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/embra...123300396.html

trc8301 06-17-2019 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Legacy500 (Post 2838094)
Would like to see these at main line.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/embra...123300396.html

Hearing that Compass may be chatting with UAL....

APC225 06-17-2019 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by trc8301 (Post 2838125)
Hearing that Compass may be chatting with UAL....

... or whoever can undercut them on labor costs.

flyjustinfly 06-19-2019 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by trc8301 (Post 2838125)
Hearing that Compass may be chatting with UAL....

Makes sense with the timing as the DL contract with CP expires next year. Once the DL birds are off property, UAL will no longer have an issue with Scope (The current DL 175's are over the Scope weight under UA's contract)

friend 06-19-2019 09:54 PM

Wouldnt expresshet get those 175
 
Since united somewhat owning expressjet wouldnt the likelyhood of those 39 175 go to expressjet.

If compass did get the contract would the flying be out of sfo or lax

cadetdrivr 06-20-2019 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by friend (Post 2839908)
Since united somewhat owning expressjet wouldnt the likelyhood of those 39 175 go to expressjet.

Not necessarily.

UAL really likes having multiple express carriers to play off against each other.

blockplus 06-20-2019 05:33 AM

Well I bet the 20 replace mesa’s 20 crj700s, so it will be telling as to the future of Mesa flying in reguards to the other 175s

saturn 06-20-2019 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by flyjustinfly (Post 2839879)
Makes sense with the timing as the DL contract with CP expires next year. Once the DL birds are off property, UAL will no longer have an issue with Scope (The current DL 175's are over the Scope weight under UA's contract)

Those 36 referenced Compass 175s are owned by DL. If Compass stops flying them, another regional will, for DL. The DL scope clause has a carve out for those jets, yet nothing mentions which regional must be the operator.

evodiver 06-20-2019 07:16 PM

United owned, United Flown. At least how it should be. Scope needs some adjustment in the new contract.

N6279P 06-21-2019 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by evodiver (Post 2840563)
United owned, United Flown. At least how it should be. Scope needs some adjustment in the new contract.

United (owns and leases) the 145’s. Do you want to fly those too?

Terrain Inop 06-21-2019 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2840672)
United (owns and leases) the 145’s. Do you want to fly those too?

Yes. Filler

LumberJack 06-21-2019 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2840672)
United (owns and leases) the 145’s. Do you want to fly those too?

You're either trolling or don't understand airline history.

saab2000 06-21-2019 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2840672)
United (owns and leases) the 145’s. Do you want to fly those too?

I don’t work for United but spent years at a United Express carrier. I think 100% of my colleagues and I would have been happier flying that size airplane on the UAL certificate and seniority list rather than starting over at the bottom when we were lucky enough to finally get in at a major.

12 years wasted at a regional, like thousands of others. Every airplane under a brand should be flown by pilots at that company and on that seniority list.

APC225 06-21-2019 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 2840949)
I don’t work for United but spent years at a United Express carrier. I think 100% of my colleagues and I would have been happier flying that size airplane on the UAL certificate and seniority list rather than starting over at the bottom when we were lucky enough to finally get in at a major.

12 years wasted at a regional, like thousands of others. Every airplane under a brand should be flown by pilots at that company and on that seniority list.

Double plus. They actually discussed that LCAL but it was shot down.

MasterOfPuppets 06-21-2019 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2840672)
United (owns and leases) the 145’s. Do you want to fly those too?

What a ridiculous question......YES bring back the Bros and we will fly those too. United express shouldn’t even exist

evodiver 06-21-2019 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by N6279P (Post 2840672)
United (owns and leases) the 145’s. Do you want to fly those too?

Yes! As others have said, wouldn't you like your first job to be on a Major carriers seniority list? Or do you prefer to slog it out to build time for 1-15+ years and then start all over again at the bottom of a new seniority list?

But what is amazing to me is that a major carrier can open the check book to outright buy airplanes for another company to fly while the pilots employed by that carrier don't fly them. That to me is a huge hole in the scope language. I don't care what size they are, 45 seats or 425 seats. If the company buys the aircraft, their employees should to fly them, not some other companies pilots.

If Skywest or Mesa (or insert your regional here ___), buys airplanes to fulfill a contract so be it. Of course I would prefer zero outsourcing but that obviously goes without saying.

da42pilot 06-21-2019 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by evodiver (Post 2841144)
Yes! As others have said, wouldn't you like your first job to be on a Major carriers seniority list? Or do you prefer to slog it out to build time for 1-15+ years and then start all over again at the bottom of a new seniority list?

But what is amazing to me is that a major carrier can open the check book to outright buy airplanes for another company to fly while the pilots employed by that carrier don't fly them. That to me is a huge hole in the scope language. I don't care what size they are, 45 seats or 425 seats. If the company buys the aircraft, their employees should to fly them, not some other companies pilots.

If Skywest or Mesa (or insert your regional here ___), buys airplanes to fulfill a contract so be it. Of course I would prefer zero outsourcing but that obviously goes without saying.

Majors aren’t buying airplanes for other companies. Those planes are merely being operated by other companies and they remain the property of the major.

evodiver 06-21-2019 10:34 PM

[/QUOTE] But what is amazing to me is that a major carrier can open the check book to outright buy airplanes for another company to fly while the pilots employed by that carrier don't fly them.[/QUOTE]


Originally Posted by da42pilot (Post 2841175)
Majors aren’t buying airplanes for other companies. Those planes are merely being operated by other companies and they remain the property of the major.

Don't twist the words, like I said above, the majors are buying airplanes to be operated by other companies and pilots not on the seniority list of the company that is buying the airplanes.

If you can't see the problem here..


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