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baseball 07-10-2019 03:53 AM

India Routes
 
What is the current status of our two B-777 India trips?

Is the FAA still telling air carriers to avoid Iranian airspace?

How does this effect earnings/bottom line?

Any other carriers affected by FAA order to avoid Iranian airspace?

Has the Dept. of State said anything recently?

-asking because my google search doesn't yield any current information.

C11DCA 07-11-2019 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2850575)
What is the current status of our two B-777 India trips?

Is the FAA still telling air carriers to avoid Iranian airspace?

How does this effect earnings/bottom line?

Any other carriers affected by FAA order to avoid Iranian airspace?

Has the Dept. of State said anything recently?

-asking because my google search doesn't yield any current information.

United has suspended all India flying through September 1. The Pakistan airspace is still closed and that’s been going on longer then the Iran issue. So wouldn’t be surprised to see it pushed to October.

The FAA order only affects US airlines and since no other US airline flies to India, UAL is the only one affected as far as I know.

Hard to say on profitability, those planes have been repurposed in the domestic market helping to cover the MaX debacle. So maybe neutral? And due to international rules, they can’t change aircraft in a international market without approval. So a 777-200 route can’t just become a 777-300 route at United’s whim.

oldmako 07-11-2019 04:10 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/02...884cc18e66.jpg

Mass transit is quite/quiet popular there/their/they're.

Twin Wasp 07-11-2019 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by C11DCA (Post 2851318)
The FAA order only affects US airlines and since no other US airline flies to India, UAL is the only one affected as far as I know.

Southern Air flys BAH-HKG so they have to route a bit farther south. Atlas also does some Middle East to Asia flying so they also have to avoid the area. Probably not a big deal when you balance the overflight fees versus the longer flight times. FedEx used to go to India, not sure if they still do. And UPS goes to India but I seem to recall them coming down through the -stans from Europe.

TransWorld 07-11-2019 06:06 AM

Those windows are covered with correlated metal. I assume they are running the train IFR. 🤪

worstpilotever 07-11-2019 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2851382)
Those windows are covered with correlated metal. I assume they are running the train IFR. 🤪

Oh, you think that train actually goes anywhere?

IAHB756 07-11-2019 12:55 PM

This is helping the ME3 as they can(and are) connecting India to the West through their hubs.

full of luv 07-11-2019 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2851382)
Those windows are covered with correlated metal. I assume they are running the train IFR. 🤪

Gotta love auto correct that "fixes" corrugated to correlated, why not collated?

C11DCA 07-11-2019 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Twin Wasp (Post 2851380)
Southern Air flys BAH-HKG so they have to route a bit farther south. Atlas also does some Middle East to Asia flying so they also have to avoid the area. Probably not a big deal when you balance the overflight fees versus the longer flight times. FedEx used to go to India, not sure if they still do. And UPS goes to India but I seem to recall them coming down through the -stans from Europe.

Totally forgot about the cargo stuff. So back to the OP, yes others are affected.

flieger 07-15-2019 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 2851320)
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/43/02...884cc18e66.jpg

Mass transit is quite/quiet popular there/their/they're.

Looks like the Go Transit Kitchener line from Toronto


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