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Old 09-03-2019, 12:36 PM
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Aside from checking the box to get this job, my business degree has been pointless.....and 100% unnecessary to do this job.
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Old 09-03-2019, 08:23 PM
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Aside from checking the box to get this job, my business degree has been pointless.....and 100% unnecessary to do this job.
Disagree. First, it met the requirement of a 4-year degree. Second, it is vital that you have some skills not related to flying, in case it doesn't work out. Thankfully it worked for you. Different story if you lose your medical. You never know till you know.

Glad you made it and didn't need it. But then again, wait to ask the question again, every day till you retire.
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Old 09-05-2019, 01:44 PM
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Disagree. First, it met the requirement of a 4-year degree. Second, it is vital that you have some skills not related to flying, in case it doesn't work out. Thankfully it worked for you. Different story if you lose your medical. You never know till you know.

Glad you made it and didn't need it. But then again, wait to ask the question again, every day till you retire.
The 4-year degree in something different than aviation to “fall back on” is such shallow thinking. The ones that actually believe this have obviously never had to use this philosophy. Nowadays a degree is almost worthless in most majors when trying to get a job with zero experience. Sort of a catch 22. It never used to be this way. Case in point, I have an engineering degree that I’ve held for almost 8 years now and I’ve never touched the career field. It’ll be an extreme struggle, if not impossible without going back to school to land an engineering job with only a piece of paper if I had to tomorrow. Get any 4-year with good marks on your transcript to check the damn box so the computer algorithm will keep pushing the resume forward.
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Old 09-05-2019, 02:02 PM
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Hello all,

My dream job is to fly for United. I’m a CFI working towards my R-ATP mins. I will have a 4 year degree by the time I would get to United. Working on it online now. I was thinking of one if the CPP but I’ve heard the program has been suspended.

I have a CJO with republic when i get my time and have really leaned towards them. Seems like a great company to work for. But it seems like United isn’t taking many pilots from there. Any reason? Is it because they fly their express flights so they don’t want to lose crews for them? I was thinking of an AA wholly owned as well. Which do you think I have a better shot with?

Thanks!
A regional with a quick upgrade so you can start bagging PIC time. Get a 4-year degree in anything with good marks. Keep the record/background clean (hopefully no training failures). Now everything I just said probably covers 90% of your competition. You need to get creative now to enhance your resume with some extracurricular’s. More school? CKA or SIM instructor? Union volunteer? Some other kind of unrelated achievements that will make your name pop (this is actually a big one and really boils down to luck with HR). Update that app every month. While you’re doing all this you probably don’t want to hate your life because it will take time, so DON’T take the CPP or flow carrots because they’re all BS. YX would be a great choice for QOL with quick upgrades and lots of flying. Ideally if you’re able to live in a specific base at a certain regional I would choose that one because commuting will kill ya no matter where you work.
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Old 09-05-2019, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
The 4-year degree in something different than aviation to “fall back on” is such shallow thinking. The ones that actually believe this have obviously never had to use this philosophy. Nowadays a degree is almost worthless in most majors when trying to get a job with zero experience. Sort of a catch 22. It never used to be this way. Case in point, I have an engineering degree that I’ve held for almost 8 years now and I’ve never touched the career field. It’ll be an extreme struggle, if not impossible without going back to school to land an engineering job with only a piece of paper if I had to tomorrow. Get any 4-year with good marks on your transcript to check the damn box so the computer algorithm will keep pushing the resume forward.
^^THIS^^

Seniority is EVERYTHING!

If one does lose one's medical, I'd think the most effective plan would be to use the disability payout $$$ to go back to school for a fresh degree for an in-demand field, and find work in said field.

And even that might not be necessary since most airlines offer generous same occupation LTD until 65.
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Old 09-05-2019, 06:09 PM
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Don’t have a LOT of time

Don’t have a LOT of PIC

Don’t have over a decade of 121

Don’t be a LCA

Don’t go to job fairs

Don’t have a CP M&G

Don’t have multiple app reviews

Don’t have a pile of internal recs

Other than that you should be good!

😉

Seriously though best of luck - seems like a good gig at U
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Old 09-12-2019, 08:14 PM
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I am a history major on track to graduate from the University of Virginia in the Spring of 2021. I have made no progress toward becoming a pilot aside from completing a discovery flight, loving it, and subsequently realizing my desire to become a career commercial pilot. I noticed most internships do not seem to desire history majors. Besides starting to work towards my pilots license, instrument rating, multi engine rating, commercial pilot certificate etc what should I do to have the best shot at one day becoming a Captain?
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Old 09-14-2019, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by stabapch View Post
The 4-year degree in something different than aviation to “fall back on” is such shallow thinking. The ones that actually believe this have obviously never had to use this philosophy. Nowadays a degree is almost worthless in most majors when trying to get a job with zero experience. Sort of a catch 22. It never used to be this way. Case in point, I have an engineering degree that I’ve held for almost 8 years now and I’ve never touched the career field. It’ll be an extreme struggle, if not impossible without going back to school to land an engineering job with only a piece of paper if I had to tomorrow. Get any 4-year with good marks on your transcript to check the damn box so the computer algorithm will keep pushing the resume forward.
I found this out right after my furlough notice. A general degree that has been sitting on the shelf for years doesn’t open very many doors. What my degree did was to allow me to check a box on an application and land a pretty good job. A collection of type ratings and tons of quality flight time say more about your ability to do this job than a business degree, but those in charge of hiring want the degree. The choice is simple. Get the degree or come up with a good excuse why you chose not to do what they want if you ever get an interview. The majors can be picky since there are still plenty of quality applicants. If people decide that jumping through the hoops isn’t for them, they give up the right to complain when they are never selected for an interview.
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Old 09-14-2019, 08:20 AM
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No idea. I tried for a while to get an interview with no luck. FedEx picked me up so I have no idea what I was doing wrong or what I was missing.
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Old 09-14-2019, 10:52 AM
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As the pool of quality applicants dries up a degree will become more and more....worthless. But until then, the HR weenies run the show.

A jillion hours of good experience will get you a job today, but long after those with 20 percent of that time have completed IOE.
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