Profit sharing for 2019
11-14-2019, 01:44 PM
#191
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
The other methods require us to be released for self help, and that will not happen. If we do it outside of self help, it is illegal. The recent legal precedents are not in our favor either. For example when Spirit sued the pilots because they were not picking up open time like they had historically done. This was done during a stalemate of negotiations.
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/n...s-lawsuit.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/01/sout...ed-planes.html
11-14-2019, 02:56 PM
#192
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
The other methods require us to be released for self help, and that will not happen. If we do it outside of self help, it is illegal. The recent legal precedents are not in our favor either. For example when Spirit sued the pilots because they were not picking up open time like they had historically done. This was done during a stalemate of negotiations.
11-14-2019, 07:26 PM
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11-15-2019, 07:22 AM
#194
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Originally Posted by DashTrash
The other methods require us to be released for self help, and that will not happen. If we do it outside of self help, it is illegal. The recent legal precedents are not in our favor either. For example when Spirit sued the pilots because they were not picking up open time like they had historically done. This was done during a stalemate of negotiations.
If you are thinking the Union is going to come out with some specific guidance on now is the time to change your behavior, then you are living under a rock. They will never ask us for that kind of "help." To do so would be illegal and it will never happen!!
That is why everybody must ask themselves "what are my long term goals?" and "is what I am doing today harming my ability to achieve those goals?" This has to be an individual decision and cannot involve any organized pressure from a group to change somebody else's behavior.
11-15-2019, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
An overnight change in behavior is viewed as something that is being orchestrated by the Union.
If you are thinking the Union is going to come out with some specific guidance on now is the time to change your behavior, then you are living under a rock. They will never ask us for that kind of "help." To do so would be illegal and it will never happen!!
That is why everybody must ask themselves "what are my long term goals?" and "is what I am doing today harming my ability to achieve those goals?" This has to be an individual decision and cannot involve any organized pressure from a group to change somebody else's behavior.
If you are thinking the Union is going to come out with some specific guidance on now is the time to change your behavior, then you are living under a rock. They will never ask us for that kind of "help." To do so would be illegal and it will never happen!!
That is why everybody must ask themselves "what are my long term goals?" and "is what I am doing today harming my ability to achieve those goals?" This has to be an individual decision and cannot involve any organized pressure from a group to change somebody else's behavior.
11-15-2019, 08:37 AM
#196
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
If we’re thinking that the majority of the pilots will stop taking premium pay trips, or taking advantage of other lucrative provisions of the contract, then we are living under the same rock. A $10,000 three day trip dangling out there is like crack. People are hooked.
11-15-2019, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JimLaheyTPS
I’m not worried about a $10K 3 day getting scooped up. What worries me is constantly seeing FO’s in my fleet (756) tripping over one another to pick up straight pay trips, many from out of base too. Even more unsettling is seeing the list of 30-50 FO’s wanting to pick up that weekend bunkie 767-400 trip out of EWR. We have a much bigger problem than premium pay pick ups.
11-15-2019, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
This isn’t a problem at all. Let people do what they want. Senior pilots picking up premium pay shouldn’t be the only ones benefiting from extra pay.
11-15-2019, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JimLaheyTPS
I’m not worried about a $10K 3 day getting scooped up. What worries me is constantly seeing FO’s in my fleet (756) tripping over one another to pick up straight pay trips, many from out of base too. Even more unsettling is seeing the list of 30-50 FO’s wanting to pick up that weekend bunkie 767-400 trip out of EWR. We have a much bigger problem than premium pay pick ups.
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