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horrido27 01-22-2020 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2962185)
2. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it goes strictly by age 65 retirement losses. I don’t think it looks at growth or shrinking either. New hires are added regularly though.

I would tend to agree.
Growth will obviously help.. the furlough/stagnation that might happen in the next 15 years will obviously hurt.. Age 67 or 70 will be semi indifferent.

That being written, anyone hired here or at Delta should have an amazing 20+ years ahead of them~

FS, FP & FtC
Motch

baseball 01-22-2020 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by horrido27 (Post 2962196)
I would tend to agree.
Growth will obviously help.. the furlough/stagnation that might happen in the next 15 years will obviously hurt.. Age 67 or 70 will be semi indifferent.

That being written, anyone hired here or at Delta should have an amazing 20+ years ahead of them~

FS, FP & FtC
Motch

Does ALPA have a PUBLIC opinion on age 67 or 70. It would be nice to see what our dues money is paying for.
According to some AME friends of mine, cognitive testing would be too difficult and too subjective and require allot of additional wickets to jump through. Your average AME doesn't want any part of that geriatric examination certification.

Spicy McHaggis 01-23-2020 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2962249)
Does ALPA have a PUBLIC opinion on age 67 or 70. It would be nice to see what our dues money is paying for.

According to some AME friends of mine, cognitive testing would be too difficult and too subjective and require allot of additional wickets to jump through. Your average AME doesn't want any part of that geriatric examination certification.



ALPA’s official stance? Don’t know.

Unofficial? Well how old are the people running ALPA? That is a good bet on what the unofficial stance is.

NovemberBravo 01-23-2020 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 2962249)
Does ALPA have a PUBLIC opinion on age 67 or 70. It would be nice to see what our dues money is paying for.
According to some AME friends of mine, cognitive testing would be too difficult and too subjective and require allot of additional wickets to jump through. Your average AME doesn't want any part of that geriatric examination certification.

I asked the previous head of ALPA he said there wasn’t one. I think most the people in the room were surprised by the answer.

horrido27 01-23-2020 10:51 AM

Not to Thread Drift..
But I'd be surprised if we ever get an official 'opinion' from ALPA National.
BIG can of worms!

That being written, increasing the age above 65 creates as many new problems versus the amount of old problems it solves.
My opinion-
1) An age increase would allow some pilots to stay past 65 while on LTD. Hmm.. who is going to pay for that?
2) How do you certify someone to fly above 65 with regards to their cognitive skills? If they don't hack it in a sim or some sort of computer based test... then what?! LTD or forced retirement? Who designs the cog test?

*I had expected an uptick of deaths while on trips when the age went from 60 to 65 since they didn't change the medicals. As my therapist (Joking.. it's my girlfriend > fiance > soon to be wife!) would say- good to admit when you're wrong. I was wrong (happily so) about that one.

3) Who's going to be the one to sign off (bet) on raising the age?
We lost a great AME here in the EWR area (Doc D). Seems it's harder to find an AME now than before. So are we going to have enough AME's willing to sign off that someone that is 65+ is medically healthy to continue flying?
See 1 and 2!

End of the day, raising it to 65+ may help the RJ world (keeping some of their senior pilots who may also be LCA's) more than helping the Legacy world. Might help the industry as a whole by extending any possible pilot shortage a few years at most.
Don't think it's happening tomorrow but I would have lost the other bet as I expected that it would happen before 2020. (lol.. Gina is loving this)
But I also won't be surprised if it does happen at some point in this decade.

As far as the great seniority tool is concerned-
United Seniority
Great place to see (potential) info with regards to where you might be!
Mind you, I have progressively moved up since I started following it as we have lost pilots who were senior to me AND younger. Not the way I want to move up.
And you can't bet on anything that is there.. at least not 100%. But it does back up stuff that I figure out myself.
ie, if/when I can hold a certain seat.. where I should be and when..
Anyways-

FS, FP and FtC
Motch

APC225 03-01-2020 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 2952481)
Going between EWR-LGA isn’t all that bad except late at night or early in the am.

If not an SNL fan pass this one by. Lengthy spoof last night on LGA. Some of the licks were spot on.

https://youtu.be/6d7Vk_qaiB8

horrido27 03-02-2020 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 2987288)
If not an SNL fan pass this one by. Lengthy spoof last night on LGA. Some of the licks were spot on.

https://youtu.be/6d7Vk_qaiB8

SNL only hits it out of the ball park every now and then,,
But that skit was pretty ****ing good~
LOL

FS, FP & FtC
Motch


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