Grumble

Agree, Anyone with a DOH in a certain range perks my interest. Shouldn’t need to have heard a name to be suspect of them being a SCAB, having stolen all their ill-gotten gains. This one is no pioneer, not by a mile. Equal opportunity douche baggery. Fly west soon SCAB.

Anyone that doesn’t know, just hasn’t been taught, that’s a failure of mentorship... to all the Captains out there.

Guppydriver95

Angry? Me? Hardly. But I guess maybe the typed word doesn’t always convey tone the way it’s intended. Merry Christmas to you too, and the rest of APC as well. (unless ur a scab)��

baseball

Corporate ALPA "forgave" them, so they could get their votes so they would agree to switch from IACP to ALPA and collect their dues money.

That sort of "forgiveness" does not imply their were wholly-and-completely-forgiven by the profession. That kind of forgiveness can only come from a higher power, a power higher than ALPA leadership.

The term "forgiven by ALPA" is widely over-used and misunderstood.

ShyGuy

Dang. Someone who scabbed in 1984-1986 is going to retire in 2028?!? That’s like 42+ years. Enjoying being a 777 CA for the last 20 yrs of their career. Where’s the justice?

Knotcher

Yes...some took advantage of a situation to cut in line and get hired very young...just like some of the “570” bunch.

symbian simian

We can all hope, wish and pray (and if you sit next to them, do what you can so) they are not enjoying those years. They sit in the seat, and get the pay, but there is definitely no reason they should enjoy a minute of it.

kettlechips

For the uninitiated... What happened in 1983?

baseball

you should simply do some homework.

viperhawgdriver

Buy a copy of Hard Landings. It come digitally too if that’s your preference. It covers much of what Frank Lorenzo did and the strike of 1983.

HuggyU2

"I need some homework to learn about what you're talking about."
"Go do your homework!"

Nothing like giving zero direction to someone asking for help in an area that you apparently are quite passionate about.

KettleChips, he's referring to the Continental Airlines strike of 1983. A number of the pilots that crossed the picket line are still flying at United and the last one doesn't retire until 2028. As you can imagine, there is still a fair amount of animosity about the issue, 36 years later.

A quick and easy place to start would be to learn about Frank Lorenzo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lorenzo

This link is about the 1985 United strike and talks about the 570.
https://crewroom.alpa.org/ual/Deskto...cumentID=21462
I don't know much about the backstories, but when the 570 are mentioned by captains I fly with, I get differing opinions, usually very positive or very negative. Not much "in the middle".