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Old 03-14-2020, 05:13 PM
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Assuming we file where we work, which base has the best unemployment benefits. NJ has me maxed out at around $18k for a year. If I displace before furlough, should I take this into consideration? Could I **** myself, like work 2 months in a different base then be furloughed but get no benefits because I wasn't there long enough? What things should I be thinking about.
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Great question. Wish I knew the answer. Glad you asked. I’ve been making plans for the “f” word, but this hadn’t crossed my scope. I’m following your thread.
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Do a search of each domicile's state's unemployment website. The answers should be there.
NJ looks like it's the highest. https://singlemotherguide.com/unemployment-insurance/

But do more research than just this article.
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Old 03-14-2020, 05:59 PM
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Don’t put the cart before the horse here. The company or the union haven’t even mentioned displacements, much less furloughs. Even if they eventually decide that a furlough is necessarily, they have to give you 90 days written notice. People are acting like the world is ending tomorrow. There may be a time to figure this stuff out eventually, but we aren’t even close to that point yet.
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That's a great resource. I also found a benefits summary. Looks like UI will come from the state of work but TANF, SNAP, and Medicaid eligibility (percentage of poverty level) from the state of residence. Looks like around $6k income in Florida would make me ineligible for Medicaid based on 28%.

https://singlemotherguide.com/state-assistance/

I definitely need more research but it's looking like a single mom could get like $35k in TANF+SNAP indefinitely. I shoulda had more babies. In CA it's like $60k/yr. This doesn't include unemployment. WTF!!! This is a retirement plan.
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Don’t put the cart before the horse here. The company or the union haven’t even mentioned displacements, much less furloughs. Even if they eventually decide that a furlough is necessarily, they have to give you 90 days written notice. People are acting like the world is ending tomorrow. There may be a time to figure this stuff out eventually, but we aren’t even close to that point yet.
There is a blurb in the furlough section of the contract basically saying the company can circumvent the 90 day notification period "for reasons outside the company's control." I would think they would play that card.
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet View Post
There is a blurb in the furlough section of the contract basically saying the company can circumvent the 90 day notification period "for reasons outside the company's control." I would think they would play that card.
FWIW, there’s still 60 days notice per the federal Warn Act, unless Congress changes the rules.
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There is a blurb in the furlough section of the contract basically saying the company can circumvent the 90 day notification period "for reasons outside the company's control." I would think they would play that card.
I believe it's thirty days.

7-A-1 Any reduction in Pilot personnel shall be in the reverse order of system seniority. When it becomes necessary to furlough pilots covered by this Agreement, at least thirty (30) days, but not more than 120 days, notice of such furlough shall be given all pilots affected; provided, however, that when there is no work because of an Act of God, labor dispute, or other circumstances over which the Company has no control, pilots covered by this Agreement may be furloughed without advance notice. Such pilots furloughed shall be offered recall in seniority order.
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Originally Posted by Itsajob View Post
Don’t put the cart before the horse here. The company or the union haven’t even mentioned displacements, much less furloughs. Even if they eventually decide that a furlough is necessarily, they have to give you 90 days written notice. People are acting like the world is ending tomorrow. There may be a time to figure this stuff out eventually, but we aren’t even close to that point yet.
Bad advice. One should be prepared, especially if they've been hired in the last couple of years. I wish someone had given me the advice to plan ahead prior to either of my two furloughs. I was given the 'don't worry; the union's got your back' answer which was real bad advice.
And frankly, fadec is asking a really, really smart question.
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FWIW, there’s still 60 days notice per the federal Warn Act, unless Congress changes the rules.
There are exceptions.

Additionally, the WARN Act requires employers to give notice of any mass layoff, that does not result from a plant closing but will result in an employment loss of 500 or more employees during any 30-day period. The Act also covers employment loss for 50-499 employees if they make up at least 33 percent of the employer's active workforce.

This requirement does not consider the layoff of employees who have worked for the employer less than six months in the past 12 months, or employees who work, on average, less than 20 hours a week.
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