Returning to normal
 

"Meanwhile, life in the Hubei province of China, where the outbreak began, is slowly returning to normal. Almost all lockdown restrictions will be lifted tomorrow."

CNN "5 things"
Tuesday 03.24.2020

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It's been several days, and Congress still hasn't settled on the nearly $2 trillion stimulus bill to boost the US economy amid sweeping coronavirus restrictions. Democrats voted against the bill for a second time, arguing that Congress needs to avoid a corporate bailout scenario. Politicians fear time is running out to get the deal off the ground. The US saw its deadliest day yet in the coronavirus fight yesterday, with 100 new recorded deaths. Canada is also getting pummeled by the virus. At least 2,000 cases and 25 deaths there have prompted more closures and tighter restrictions. UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has sent the UK into lockdown to curb the spread, and Thailand and Singapore both recorded spikes in cases. Meanwhile, life in the Hubei province of China, where the outbreak began, is slowly returning to normal. Almost all lockdown restrictions will be lifted tomorrow. Follow the latest updates here.

How much financial stimulus did China need?

Just curious how hard China was hit financially, or was this just their gift to the world?

We’ll never know how much they got it financially. Hopefully, though, they will become a smaller player economically on the world stage because of this.

‘hit hard economically’ just translates to ‘even cheaper labor force’ for the rest of the world. China’s not going to do anything but keep getting steadily bigger like it has for centuries.

They don’t care about their people. I’d like to think we can do better and still not consider ourselves communists because we are going to use tax money to prevent a full collapse.

not sure I believe Communist China's reporting or "stats" they push out.

didn't they launch this virus on the rest of the world ? It would be in their interest to show "no permanent damage" and "back to normal"

I assume you wrote this is jest.

The USA (and the rest of the world BTW) is nothing like China. Their whole way of doing things is not free nor is it democratic. Never forget everything is run by the central government.

This! 1000%!!!

Not only this...The reach of the CommChi is deep in the U.S. Remember the NBA kowtowing to China over comments made by a couple players and coaches?

Twitter is removing what is calls”dis-information” tweets about Corona virus, however it has not removed tweets claiming that American military was the origin of virus planted in China......yet twitter is banned in China.

The world really needs to use this opportunity to extricate themselves from Chinese tentacles. Every recent serious illness, other than ebola, has originated in China.

Does Swine flu from the USA not count as a serious illness?

Ah, yes. I remember the world shutting down over that one.

We are most likely going to have a “new normal” in the US airline industry. I never would have thought that I’d see regionals furloughing before the legacies. Will we come back under the previous model, or will the big 3 use this as an opportunity to change? The last time that they changed the model the regionals grew, while the legacies were reduced. Hopefully this time we reduce our dependence on the regionals and cover more at the parent companies.

THIS!! ^^^^. Now all you have to do is convince Corporate America to make a little less profit, that is our problem.

Unfortunately, it is difficult for many to comprehend the benefits of long-term diversification and stability, over short-term profits. We have a hard time playing the long-game in this country; something our Chinese counterparts do not.

That, in a nutshell, is our problem. Until we stop letting short term profits drive the bus, we are screwed.

Actually you don't.... mainly because there wasn't any social media to hype it up.

Very little to do with social media. A lot to do with virology.

It’s the same mentality of ours that’s led to the obesity epidemic (which is the real invisible enemy). Enjoy all the fast food you want. There will be time to lose weight and eat healthy later.

We are a reactive society and want instant gratification (ie cheap goods from China and high profits) without considering the long term effects. Hopefully we are changing.

Which other disease out of China has shut the world down?

Great, a China defender. Washington Post employee? Google?

And convince Americans to pay more for their Apple products. I for one will be happy to so long as the factories are over here!

I would, as well. I try to find things that are specifically NOT made in China, as difficult as it is. I will buy Japanese or South Korean if it is an option. A lot of time it's just not.

I was looking to buy a couple hand-jacks for the home garage a few years ago. Was ready to put down some $$ on Snap-on jacks when, alas, even they were made in China and re-branded. I was able to find one company in the entire U.S. that still made a car jack.

Apple makes on average 49% profit on their products. No need for Americans to pay more.

Recently watched a NETFLIX documentary special on SARS, and this is what I gathered from it:

The only reason SARS-1 didn't wipe out 10% of the world population is because, luckily, it wasn't considered terribly hardy and fizzled out as quickly as it arrived. It also had some weakness in its ability to securely attach to receptor sites. This one is able to bond more securely. My hope is that this thing fizzles out the same way and as suddenly as SARS-1 since they are both of the same type of SARS virus.

China has a problem with viral breakouts from cultural folk medicinal beliefs about wildlife and freshly killed animals "powering" the body, which is why these different animals are kept together alive in confined spaces defecating all over each other, creating the prime environment for zootonic transmission. The Chinese government and health authorities acknowledged this after SARS-1 and even signed a commitment to the IHR to monitor, prevent, and IMMEDIATELY report, but failed to do so this time and covered it up instead, violating the agreement that was signed by almost 200 countries.

Point being, if they continue to act irresponsibly, this will continue to happen again and again, shutting the world down. This is just a reality. Political Correctness won't change these facts.

Another one to watch is

https://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Enemy-.../dp/B072Z5QZCW


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Returning to normal
 

I think the Swine flu of 2009 originated from factory farms in Mexico. Another theory is that it originated in Asia.


https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/health/24flu.html

Sounds almost as if those Chinese scientists placed at a Canadian lab who stole corona virus and smuggled it back to a Chinese bio lab might have had access to a "lessons learned" or something, so they didn't make the same mistakes this time? Unfortunately, someone wasn't too careful in their handling and safety methodology.

I know. Crazy talk about the glorious CCP. Does anyone actually believe that pretty much every research publication and institution around the world isn't beholden to Chinese research money, seeing as how they are the most prolific publishers of (often bad) research and providers of research funding.

Just ask the head of Harvard's chemistry department. Or should I say former head, seeing as he is likely on his way to prison.

Headin' to the store for more tinfoil.

Was it called "Pandemic"? If so, very good. And the timing was incredible. Dr Glanville, the guy on "Pandemic" leading the charge on developing a universal flu vaccine, has been on some of the major networks recently talking about the current world situation.
People like him should be given a medal... and a ton of money to continue working toward solutions. They are some brilliant and dedicated Americans.

I have no problem paying 40% more for products that are made here...so what's the problem? We all do it every day you just dont realize it. My Jean's made in USA, Suits, Dress Shoes, all my aftermarket products for my dirt bikes, surf boards, snow skis, guns, cars(%), food(%), hell I try to buy made in the USA every day, do your research. Here's another ACE Hardware has allot of made in the USA products...can't obviously always buy but I try and don't mind paying. Because that money come back to me in one way or another buy foreign you'll never see it again.

^^^ Yup. China was the world's largest economy for most of the period before/during 1800s, and then collapsed under its own weight. The US has only been on top for slightly over 100 years. China and India have been on a steady climb for decades.
https://www.newgeography.com/content...-two-countries

Chainsaw...USA...forgot that one I love my chainsaw...never lend your chainsaw or your wife out both will always come back broke!

It wasn't that one, watching that one tonight. This one is from the "Explained" series called "the next pandemic". It came out in November, right before this thing struck. It was almost prophetic.

And yes, those guys should get all the funding they need.