UAL - manpower reduction options
03-28-2020, 01:45 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by Thor
Seriously? Any guesses on where our new hires came from? Most lived a decade of career stagnation from pre-2008 until the last few years.
I’ll give you that most haven’t seen it at UAL, but to suggest they don’t know the ramifications of an industry downturn is disingenuous. There’s a lot of experience in the bottom third of the list that knows the ramifications of givebacks. Unfortunately, just not from the perspective of mainline.
I’ll give you that most haven’t seen it at UAL, but to suggest they don’t know the ramifications of an industry downturn is disingenuous. There’s a lot of experience in the bottom third of the list that knows the ramifications of givebacks. Unfortunately, just not from the perspective of mainline.
03-28-2020, 02:33 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
I saw the Union email critical about early outs at AA. Sounds like Kirby has them fooled.
03-28-2020, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
I saw the Union email critical about early outs at AA. Sounds like Kirby has them fooled.
03-28-2020, 05:06 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by LUVPLANES
Obviously the company wants something in return, they can easily offer the 62+ deal AAL got but at a cost of big scope relief, our only hope is to stay united. Let’s say worst case scenario they want to furlough 2,000 pilots Oct 1st unless we all accept to all go down to a flat 50hr/month until the market recovers. Can we all stick together to make it work? I’m in.
No. I am not in.
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03-29-2020, 07:33 AM
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Bill Me
Can someone elaborate for the new hire types on this new development from the new LOA?
How might these ESRLs work? Reduced hours less than the 50? Example for the smart or seasoned among us?
How might a blank line work?
Plan on being furloughed in Sept. within the bottom 10%. Sucks but oh well. At least we can prepare.
Still glad I got UAL. Hope we survive and thrive. Thanks for any legit replies.
How might these ESRLs work? Reduced hours less than the 50? Example for the smart or seasoned among us?
How might a blank line work?
Plan on being furloughed in Sept. within the bottom 10%. Sucks but oh well. At least we can prepare.
Still glad I got UAL. Hope we survive and thrive. Thanks for any legit replies.
03-29-2020, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by massgflight
Can someone elaborate for the new hire types on this new development from the new LOA?
How might these ESRLs work? Reduced hours less than the 50? Example for the smart or seasoned among us?
How might a blank line work?
Plan on being furloughed in Sept. within the bottom 10%. Sucks but oh well. At least we can prepare.
Still glad I got UAL. Hope we survive and thrive. Thanks for any legit replies.
How might these ESRLs work? Reduced hours less than the 50? Example for the smart or seasoned among us?
How might a blank line work?
Plan on being furloughed in Sept. within the bottom 10%. Sucks but oh well. At least we can prepare.
Still glad I got UAL. Hope we survive and thrive. Thanks for any legit replies.
03-29-2020, 08:21 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by massgflight
Can someone elaborate for the new hire types on this new development from the new LOA?
How might these ESRLs work? Reduced hours less than the 50? Example for the smart or seasoned among us?
How might a blank line work?
Plan on being furloughed in Sept. within the bottom 10%. Sucks but oh well. At least we can prepare.
Still glad I got UAL. Hope we survive and thrive. Thanks for any legit replies.
How might these ESRLs work? Reduced hours less than the 50? Example for the smart or seasoned among us?
How might a blank line work?
Plan on being furloughed in Sept. within the bottom 10%. Sucks but oh well. At least we can prepare.
Still glad I got UAL. Hope we survive and thrive. Thanks for any legit replies.
another option is 4 month ESRL with 35 hours paid each bid period and 5 hours per bid period deferred.
blank line means you are a line holder who has nothing on their schedule and 0 hours of pay. You are hoping to pick up something to get some $$.
ive heard of 70+ guys on reserve on a single day, so I’d say your chance of getting a single trip from open time will be extremely small.
just an opinion here but this LOA is a joke. Interest free loan until December and getting paid less than the contract prescribes of a 50 hour SRL. And that interest free loan is at risk if the company declares bankruptcy.
03-29-2020, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
The options are up on flying together. Crew resources/SRL/SRL application. Spells out what they’re offering for May. Not pretty but all voluntary.
I'd like to take one of the options but need to have a conversation with the boss.
The instructions don't state that E-SRLs accrue time for your sick bank, 401k, RHA. Anyone have the definitive answer? (I'd prefer someone being able to cite a reference). I'm sure it's written somewhere; just not finding it yet.
I went through the union emails but didn't see any LOA reference for E-SRL. I might have missed it.
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