If history is any indication, Kirby is trustworthy.

I wouldn’t read into this off the cuff comment by Kirby as a definite end of the line for ExpressJet. Heck, UAL owns a portion of ExpressJet. I hope they get to keep (and expand) their ERJ 175 opportunities vice transferring them to SkyWest. Heck, maybe take airframes from some of our non owned contractors like SkyWest or Republic and fly them pseudo “in-house” with enhanced flow-through/seniority opportunity at Mainline UAL while also providing furlough protection for our most susceptible first officers whom might need a place to call home for a year or so beginning this Fall.

Don’t forget that United owns 20ish percent of Republic as well.

What you’re not factoring in is that HYS serves the whole northwestern part of KS so many on the flight already drove 1.5-2 hrs from an even smaller town to get to HYS to fly. Their only other UA option is to drive 3-4 hours to DEN, or they can drive the 1-2 hours to GCK and fly on AA. Before HYS they would go to GCK and the business went to AA.

The transfers of 175s from XJT have already started and are in fact, speeding up. Oh, and most of the 175s at SkyWest and Republic are owned by those companies if I’m not mistaken.

"Flexibility" is the word he said a lot. Gonna be interesting to see how this turns out in many aspects.

united owns 105 of the 175s flying as express and another 25 on the tarmac in Brazil
Mesa Republic SKW

alll need to come in house period

for yes - just watch SKYW though. They are really an aircraft leasing company with an associated airline operation.

they have been killing it in times like these providing direct liquidity (loans) to UA and financing aircraft so that UA doesn’t have to and conserve cash.

SkyWest might very well turn into the next major airline to compete against United.

Like BubbleJet

You should probably apply. Sounds like a great opportunity.

Personally, I'd love to see Skywest withdraw from United Express to pursue this.

they consider themselves major anyway.
flew with ex Skywest FOs that told me so

Not

koolaid works for some

As much as I dislike Skywest, anything is possible in this industry. Now is a great time to take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves. I'm willing to wager Skywest pilots would be jumping up and down for the opportunity to fly larger mainline aircraft for much less pay.

This is coming from someone who less than a week ago said that 50 seat flying was stronger than ever on a Republic thread.

“Expressjet is still hiring and will be for the foreseeable future. 50 seat flying is stronger than ever.”

There is alway a place for a small 50 seat presence. I am presuming the lost 50 seaters would be Air Wis and Skywest. That is 170 frames. ExpressJet LR could go and keep the XR. That’s another 68. That would leave about 140 out of the current ~380. Presuming the 550 isn’t the first to be chopped.

everything I’m seeing is that travel will be severly stunted until a vaccine is found. No one will want to fly in the fall as the virus returns and risk infecting grandma. Pretty sure we won’t see a “robust” recovery until later next year.

50 seat jets do pretty darn well in a crushing economy like this. At some point soon, the CRJ550 will be converted to 76 seats and the CRJ 200 will be parked. Many opportunities will arise from the majors leaving markets and significantly reducing their capacity.

Only Kirby and a few others really know, but when he publicly says that the 50 seaters will mostly be gone, I’d guess that he means most of them. In the few articles that I have found talking about this, they all seem to be glad to see them go. One article even called it “a positive note”. I understand that people will be out of work if this does happen, but this was going to eventually play out. Companies like Air Wisconsin and Expressjet are flying an old aircraft with no available replacement that the customers don’t like. The 550 is also a 50 seat aircraft, but it is roomy and has dual class. My guess is that they are the last to go.

United is not going to subsidize a fee for departure arrangement with no passengers.

If they accept the bailout loan terms, they have to provide service to all the cities according to the govt rules. It's much cheaper running RJs than SNB or WBs.

wrong
read it again

One flight a day to each city, from ONE hub, checks the box. An RJ can’t take the mail/freight that a NB can either.

The way that the RJs 'make' a lot of money is due to the revenue split of multileg tickets. Mainline will credit most of the revenue to the RJ leg. Absent that, they're probably not making much/any money.

If SK says they're gone, he knows that they're not moneymakers because if there's one thing he does extremely well is crunch numbers.

Then AA gets the small amount of business. Assuming AA continues to service GCK. I don't think they will.

pilots don’t think in these terms but SkyWest is a major according to official DOT definition (more than 1B in revenue).

so was ASA ACA AW MAG etc

their attitude is not acceptable ( whatever percentage of them)

all regionals suck and that’s why they apply here

sorry for the venting

Regional a/c are 25% of United’s total fleet. The best solution to the current crisis is to merge all ALPA original date of hire seniority numbers across the regionals and mainline.

Why? UAL doesn't want or need the 50 seaters in the current situation.

Personally, I would have loved DOH integration during the UAL/CAL merger but, alas, that's not part of ALPA merger policy.

You're wrong.

how about those who were at a regional let’s say 1988
what happen to that seniority

If we do that all regional pilots or most but the 5 percent lifers would be on the street ... have you thought about that
keep dreaming

[QUOTE=airlinepilot50;3022706]Regional a/c are 25% of United’s total fleet. The best solution to the current crisis is to merge all ALPA original date of hire seniority numbers across the regionals and mainline.[/QUOTE

The best solution is for you to go post your BS on your airline's section on APC. You'll get much better traction there.

not really
ask pro standards but me and you know everything is confidential

United wants larger regional a/c at regional pilot rates. They will succeed.

That's funny.

So come on over with no interview and established seniority? No probation? Don’t you think we should do a sit down interview / bad vibe check first? While every company has it’s all-stars, you try and filter them out first through a process. Exhibit A:

https://abc7chicago.com/news/letter-...ation/2023778/

Is that you James Pennington?

Mainline hired you, so it’s obvious the process does not have a clean filter.

What power do you have? The government controls your company now.

Even the government hates RJs.

Based on your history posting at APC
You definitely sound like
express jet pilot that did not get hired by United

go back to your airline boards please
you make yourself look like a fool every time you say something

kudos to United Interview team at TK !!!!

actually, ASA was 1b in revenue before SKWY decimated it. But we never had the “we’re mainline” mentality.