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Old 03-31-2020, 01:00 PM   #21  
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Belching up horse manure about The Great el Gordo and how erudite and astute his team was (while being bankrolled and enabled by employees making FAR less than industry-standard wages and bennies) is really a farce and reeks of revisionist history. CAL was a likely candidate for BK prior to the merger so spare us the BS.

"And kept you from hitting the street" Nice! Well done captain.

Stay classy San Diego.

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Belching up horse manure about The Great el Gordo and how erudite and astute his team was (while being bankrolled and enabled by employees making FAR less than industry-standard wages and bennies) is really a farce and reeks of revisionist history. CAL was a likely candidate for BK prior to the merger so spare us the BS.

"And kept you from hitting the street" Nice! Well done captain.

Stay classy San Diego.


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Old 03-31-2020, 04:42 PM   #23  
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If dude is legit his DOH is prob Ď83-Ď85

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Belching up horse manure about The Great el Gordo and how erudite and astute his team was (while being bankrolled and enabled by employees making FAR less than industry-standard wages and bennies) is really a farce and reeks of revisionist history. CAL was a likely candidate for BK prior to the merger so spare us the BS.

"And kept you from hitting the street" Nice! Well done captain.

Stay classy San Diego.
Likely? A any pragmatist can look through the financials and see it was a certainty.
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Not the best analogy. Airplanes are measured by capacity over distance. Weaponry is measured by tagetting and leathality.

Battleships became irrelavent because of technological change and over the himorozon capability.

People are still going to travel.

Okay let me clarify: my battleships would have reactors, rail guns, a larger flight deck for F35 VSTOL, 5 bars with included happy hour (off duty), a massage deck, oh yah- a few nuclear tomahawks, torpedoes and depth charges delivered by sharks, and good food. With or without the Wuhan. The risk ya take.

Virtual Quarantiniís for all my fellow aviators. This baby gonna play out how it does.
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Likely? A any pragmatist can look through the financials and see it was a certainty.

Before the merger, which airline was on the Blloomberg News Bankruptcy watch? UAL

Before the merger, which airline was paying over 25% interest on secured debt? UAL

Before the merger, which airline had an aircraft order that the WSJ called more akin to a loan instead of a serious aircraft order?

How many of those Airbus aircraft have been delivered? When was the last time UAL received a new aircraft that was ordered pre merger?

Which airline had pilots on furlough at the merger announcement? Oh right, UAL was such the financially superior airline that they had to gut its domestic fleet to make itself attractive of a merger partner.

Queue a link to a blog post, from an unheard of website written by an unheard of junior college student, claiming to see something that Wall Street missed about CAL.
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Now that itís been post merger for going on 10 years, who really cares about any of this garbage? Let it go. There are bigger issues now.
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Now that itís been post merger for going on 10 years, who really cares about any of this garbage? Let it go. There are bigger issues now.
They canít help themselves...sad really.

They hate us cause they ainít us!
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Before the merger, which airline was on the Blloomberg News Bankruptcy watch? UAL

Before the merger, which airline was paying over 25% interest on secured debt? UAL

Before the merger, which airline had an aircraft order that the WSJ called more akin to a loan instead of a serious aircraft order?

How many of those Airbus aircraft have been delivered? When was the last time UAL received a new aircraft that was ordered pre merger?

Which airline had pilots on furlough at the merger announcement? Oh right, UAL was such the financially superior airline that they had to gut its domestic fleet to make itself attractive of a merger partner.

Queue a link to a blog post, from an unheard of website written by an unheard of junior college student, claiming to see something that Wall Street missed about CAL.
So weíre going through the most significant (I hope) health and financial crisis of our lifetime and youíre still butt hurt about the merger. Wow. Just. Wow.
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This appears to be the mantra of BOTH sides.
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Old 03-31-2020, 08:34 PM   #30  
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Where did 10 years go. First half of April 2010 UAL was reported to be in deep merger negotiations with USAir. Given all that was being reported along with the hush internally, that appeared to be what was going to happen. Smisek suddenly jumped in last minute and stopped it with the ugly girl thing. At the very least, I think UAL / USair and AA / CAL would have been worse for all of us.

Now back to the black hole in front of us.
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