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F15andMD11 04-01-2020 06:50 AM

E-SRL and Commuting
 
First I'll start by saying, yes we know commuting is a choice. Thank you
No better time to be living in base these days.
It appears to me that commuters in particular will be practically forced into taking one of the SRL options. Because we simply can't get to our base. I live in a fairly large city, that had service to just about every other large city in the states. But now there is no service. I either can't get to base or return.
Not that I want to go to my base, its practically ground zero these days.
Next month I have vacation. If I take an SRL I'll lose the vacation pay. Yeah no thanks.
Empty line is tempting. But again, trip becomes available, can't get there.
Any other commuters determining the same thing?

Itsajob 04-01-2020 07:02 AM

I commute and I’m going to bid reserve. They have cut service on my commute severely, sometimes just 2 flights a day, but I’ll get there when I get there, often with no backup. I’m going to bid reserve and pay for hotels and meals. The current ESRL options are not something that I would bid. I’m not going to take 30-35 hours of pay now and the balance in December. They can offer the same terms as the April bid, or they can pay me 73 hours instead of 50. I’d rather just bid a 4 month SRL and stay home while this is at its peak, but they’re going to have to pay at least 50 hours, and all paid now.

jdt30 04-01-2020 07:11 AM

Double Commute now, bidding reserve.

cadetdrivr 04-01-2020 07:28 AM

I was 18% in my category before the spam hit the fan. Then in April I was in the bottom third above the g-line because I had vacation and was unable to select a SRL.

For May I'll commute to RSV as it beats ANY of the E-SRL options. Doubt I'll get used much if the flying in April is any indication, and if I can't make it using the prudent pilot policy, oh well, I'll still come out ahead ($$$) compared to a E-SRL.

GoCats67 04-01-2020 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3019526)
First I'll start by saying, yes we know commuting is a choice. Thank you
No better time to be living in base these days.
It appears to me that commuters in particular will be practically forced into taking one of the SRL options. Because we simply can't get to our base. I live in a fairly large city, that had service to just about every other large city in the states. But now there is no service. I either can't get to base or return.
Not that I want to go to my base, its practically ground zero these days.
Next month I have vacation. If I take an SRL I'll lose the vacation pay. Yeah no thanks.
Empty line is tempting. But again, trip becomes available, can't get there.
Any other commuters determining the same thing?

I know that there are times that local folks and commuter folks quarrel over issues. But, I assure you, though I am a local guy, I understand that in these times the items that bind us as pilots are vastly vastly more important than those 1st world quarrels.

As such, this local guy will wait a bit after 11 am so people can pick up whatever SC/FSB/trip works for them and their commute (if any) and then I will pick up whatever is left, so that we can keep the "assigned" SCs and FSBs to a minimum!!

"We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately." - Ben Franklin

Making sure that the Company cannot get away with the low ball offers that are out there right now is going to require some resolve. I resolve that I will take any "screw the commuter" option I can off the table, so that the pain of reserve can be minimized for all.

bkaz 04-01-2020 08:18 AM

I am a commute as well, and it looks like the commute is going to be somewhere between horrible and impossible. I had the thought that I need to bid this, but doing so will only allow the company to get away with putting out such a lousy offer. If we can stand together as so “no way”, they will have to come back with something better to get the numbers they need. Don’t do it.

CousinEddie 04-01-2020 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by bkaz (Post 3019634)
I am a commute as well, and it looks like the commute is going to be somewhere between horrible and impossible. I had the thought that I need to bid this, but doing so will only allow the company to get away with putting out such a lousy offer. If we can stand together as so “no way”, they will have to come back with something better to get the numbers they need. Don’t do it.

Do you have a family member at home that is at high risk with this nightmare? I didn’t think so. Don’t tell people what they should be doing in a situation like this to fit your little bubble.

Your next offering might be a pink slip or a court imposed contract. Good luck.

Mythbuster 04-01-2020 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by F15andMD11 (Post 3019526)
First I'll start by saying, yes we know commuting is a choice. Thank you
No better time to be living in base these days.
It appears to me that commuters in particular will be practically forced into taking one of the SRL options. Because we simply can't get to our base. I live in a fairly large city, that had service to just about every other large city in the states. But now there is no service. I either can't get to base or return.
Not that I want to go to my base, its practically ground zero these days.
Next month I have vacation. If I take an SRL I'll lose the vacation pay. Yeah no thanks.
Empty line is tempting. But again, trip becomes available, can't get there.
Any other commuters determining the same thing?


Another option is to try to trade your vacation for somewhere later in the year, and then try for the SRL or eSRL.

catIIIc 04-01-2020 10:51 AM

Double commute for me also bidding reserve and will take my chances with a missed trip or out of position. ESRL is a no go for me

flynd94 04-01-2020 10:56 AM

I do the hub to hub and we are down to 1 sometimes 2 flights. Unfortunately I am coming in on my days off (half winger)


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