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Poss 04-05-2020 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3024184)
I'm not raging. I just like to keep lessons learned in my mind so as not to repeat them. And perhaps, just perhaps, some of the cheery (till last month, anyway) FNGs will get an idea of how invaluable they are to the co when the cash runs out.

They will furlough and screw those remaining. It's just that simple.

That "I'm here to make the airline better" smile will get wiped right off their face. Only after they figure out what just happened to them. Then they'll watch the company hire new pilots to drown out voices of lessons learned. Wash, rinse, repeat.

fanaticalflyer 04-05-2020 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3024184)
I'm not raging. I just like to keep lessons learned in my mind so as not to repeat them. And perhaps, just perhaps, some of the cheery (till last month, anyway) FNGs will get an idea of how invaluable they are to the co when the cash runs out.

They will furlough and screw those remaining. It's just that simple.

No. You are raging like a your typical lunatic way. You are retiring soon as well, correct?

Poss 04-05-2020 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 3024541)
No. You are raging like a your typical lunatic way. You are retiring soon as well, correct?

The ironic thing is the FNGs, the ones hired "to make the airline better", told not to listen to those old bitter legacy pilots, embolden to believe they themselves can save the airline via level 4 game changing bore 4 behavior, will be convinced that their voluntary concessions will save the airline. They won't know what hit them til it's over.

Then decades later, after futile attempts to claw back what they thought was the best contract ever, the airline will hire new pilots. Those new pilots will be told of the bitter old pilots they share the cockpit with. The new pilots will attempt to drown out the warnings.

Karma

oldmako 04-05-2020 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer (Post 3024541)
No. You are raging like a your typical lunatic way. You are retiring soon as well, correct?

If you think I'm raging, you're mistaken. Where was the flying spittle? I'm simply pointing out facts that those my seniority got to enjoy during our careers. All of them are easily verified. As far as retirement, certainly not soon enough for me, and hopefully not soon enough for you.

Freight Dawg 04-05-2020 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3024184)
I'm not raging. I just like to keep lessons learned in my mind so as not to repeat them.

Just for the record, I wasn’t trying to bag on the Ol’ Fish. Sarcasm doesn’t always come out properly via text/forum/etc. I’m the grumpy old fart. I hope that the young bucks will listen to our cautionary tails. They were learned the hard way.

Itsajob 04-05-2020 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Freight Dawg (Post 3024886)
Just for the record, I wasn’t trying to bag on the Ol’ Fish. Sarcasm doesn’t always come out properly via text/forum/etc. I’m the grumpy old fart. I hope that the young bucks will listen to our cautionary tails. They were learned the hard way.

exactly

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Viperstick 04-05-2020 09:17 PM

Post merger hire. Always told my students the USAF meant more to them than they did to the USAF. Same-same GI with UAL.

I don't believe the "shared sacrifice" BS coming out of management right now, it's tenderizer before we get put on the grill. The laughable change to SRL just confirms that. Let a judge figure it out, I'm not slitting my own throat. However, I am preparing for the worst.

bore 4...that was a good one

Airhoss 04-06-2020 05:19 AM

Everything is going to be OKAY! Scott threw in a “CORE 4” during the last town hall with Oscar. Remain calm, keep allowing the crew desk to rape the contract, everything will be okay.

oldmako 04-06-2020 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Viperstick (Post 3024936)
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I don't believe the "shared sacrifice" BS coming out of management right now, it's tenderizer before we get put on the grill.....

Brilliant!

UASCOMPILOT 04-06-2020 06:00 AM

All this back and forth. Take your unemployment like a man and when their ready to recall come back as if you never left. Don't give into any demands or concession. I've been laid off numerous times in my life, it's not a big deal. Too hell if I'm gonna except concession and still get laid off, because that's what's gonna happen! Nothing is gonna save the bottom 1/3 of us so why bother!

There bickering solved! Now can we talk about booze/chicks/guys/boats/cars again or whatever floats your boat...anything but this nonsense! Because there's nothing any of us can do about this situation.


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