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Poss 05-15-2020 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 3056485)
Why is that? Bad work rules there?

Why would you ever want to work for a scab? I'd rather pull double shifts at Costco.

HuggyU2 05-15-2020 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Poss (Post 3056498)
Why would you ever want to work for a scab? I'd rather pull double shifts at Costco.

But you'll be an FO for one sitting in the left seat?

Nucflash 05-15-2020 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Poss (Post 3056391)
I tried to find the quote but without success. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Armstrong have some negative comments directed at the United pilot group years ago? Then again, who hasn't had a negative comment against us in pursuit of their own agenda?

He was on the UAL board, not sure when exactly. Pretty sure it was pre-strike.

HuggyU2 05-15-2020 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3056556)
He was on the UAL board, not sure when exactly. Pretty sure it was pre-strike.

1978-1980, I believe.

Brahma Fear 05-15-2020 03:24 PM

I think we can all agree there is a big difference between working at a company owned and operated by a scab. And working at a company that has some scabs on the list.

HuggyU2 05-15-2020 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Huell (Post 3056906)
The more I think about it, this is not the first time that Huggy has been a bit sensitive when the discussion of SCABs has come up. Makes me go hummmmm?

You go "hummm" a lot? Interesting.
But of good use of the 3rd step of "admit nothing, deny everything, make counter-accusations" strategy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

To keep things clear, I have no desire to uproot, move to SoCal and work for Clay Lacy. And "sensitive"? Only to people who talk big but really don't back it up with their actions.


Originally Posted by Brahma Fear (Post 3056919)
I think we can all agree there is a big difference between working at a company owned and operated by a scab. And working at a company that has some scabs on the list.

No, I don't think we all agree.

1. Flying with a company led by a scab: you can support your family and try to move on as quick as you can.

2. Flying with a scab captain: you can call in sick or drop the trip. It doesn't cost you your career, It doesn't cost much money,, and is a magnitude less painful to supporting your family. So can I assume you do this when you are paired with a scab?

Since Option 2 is such a painless option as compared to Option 1, I would think that someone as passionate about the subject as you would invoke it. I would guess not. Seems to me you're just making excuses since YOU'RE not directly affected today.

My next door neighbor flew Lear's for Clay Lacy in the 90's and is now a junior NB Captain at one of our competitors. Great guy, and definitely supports the union. Do you believe I should go tell him he's a worthless piece of FOD because he worked there?

A few years ago I flew with a real senior Captain who had done a lot with ALPA. In discussing the strike, his observation was that there are more than a couple of folks he knows that act very over the top about being pro-union... but he believes they would have been in the next wave to cross the picket line in '85 had it gone on a few more months. I often think of his comments when I see some posts on here.

And finally.... would you quit UAL if a scab took over as Chief of Flight Ops, President, CEO, etc...?
Yeah... I didn't think so.

Brahma Fear 05-15-2020 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by HuggyU2 (Post 3056992)
You go "hummm" a lot? Interesting.
But of good use of the 3rd step of "admit nothing, deny everything, make counter-accusations" strategy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

To keep things clear, I have no desire to uproot, move to SoCal and work for Clay Lacy. And "sensitive"? Only to people who talk big but really don't back it up with their actions.



No, I don't think we all agree.

1. Flying with a company led by a scab: you can support your family and try to move on as quick as you can.

2. Flying with a scab captain: you can call in sick or drop the trip. It doesn't cost you your career, It doesn't cost much money,, and is a magnitude less painful to supporting your family. So can I assume you do this when you are paired with a scab?

Since Option 2 is such a painless option as compared to Option 1, I would think that someone as passionate about the subject as you would invoke it. Apparently not. Seems to me you're just making excuses since YOU'RE not directly affected today.

My next door neighbor flew Lear's for Clay Lacy in the 90's and is now a junior NB Captain at one of our competitors. Great guy, and definitely supports the union. Do you believe I should go tell him he's a worthless piece of FOD because he worked there?

A few years ago I flew with a real senior Captain who had done a lot with ALPA. In discussing the strike, his observation was that there are more than a couple of folks he knows that act very over the top about being pro-union... but he believes they would have been in the next wave to cross the picket line in '85 had it gone on a few more months. I often think of his comments when I see some posts on here.

And finally.... would you quit UAL if a scab took over as Chief of Flight Ops, President, CEO, etc...?
Yeah... I didn't think so.

No offense to your friend. I think it would be different if they left their current position to go work for Lacy. It would be even worse to leave UAL, the airline he scabbed at, and go work for him. I will be clear though it’s not scabbing so...if you want to do it go. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I’m very much in the cross hairs of getting furloughed.

Also I think you are a UAL pilot. Don’t we called it VP of Flight Ops?

Loon 05-15-2020 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Huell (Post 3055801)
I wouldn't be surprised. The SCAB did it once why not try again.

.. even the new hires/millenials who claim "the strike was a long time ago and doesn't matter anymore".

Is this true?

nkbux 05-15-2020 07:14 PM

Is there still a “master list” floating around? I’ve always wondered... taken lots of jumpers out of IAH EWR and CLE... cause ya never know right???

Brahma Fear 05-15-2020 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 3057093)
Is there still a “master list” floating around? I’ve always wondered... taken lots of jumpers out of IAH EWR and CLE... cause ya never know right???

You know you can google just about anything right?


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