AA VS UAL Approach
05-31-2020, 05:37 PM
#41
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 149
Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Kirby is a one trick pony. Operationally, he’s an extremely smart man. He doesn’t carry that same talent to employee negotiations/relations. I think the UAL pilots have been warned. If they fall for his tactics I don’t know what to say.
No animosity from this UA cat and I know no pilot who has any at UAL. Good post cheddar for sure.
SK is a wildcard. Look forward to seeing how he plays this shifting hand. I’m also glad you AA bubbas share your thoughts and concerns about the dude.
05-31-2020, 07:14 PM
#42
The Beach
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 63
Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Good news is SK is good at counting cards!
As far as someone's called/perceived "animosity" from one group to the other......Sounds like a "broad brush" on a very isolated case.....can't say I've heard of anything in the area code.
06-01-2020, 06:39 AM
#43
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 181
Originally Posted by TheSoCalGuy
As far as someone's called/perceived "animosity" from one group to the other......Sounds like a "broad brush" on a very isolated case.....can't say I've heard of anything in the area code.
06-01-2020, 09:29 PM
#44
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Posts: 589
Originally Posted by bikeva
I think what a lot of people are saying was a “never mind” email is misrepresenting. The second email was a correction that the details were still being worked but they do plan on doing assignments and bringing potentially smaller groups at some point mid-summer.
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06-02-2020, 04:05 AM
#45
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,876
Originally Posted by TheSoCalGuy
HA!!.....Closest to a "TRUE" statement made in this thread thus far considering SK's track record while at the tables in Vegas, and being called on it in person.
As far as someone's called/perceived "animosity" from one group to the other......Sounds like a "broad brush" on a very isolated case.....can't say I've heard of anything in the area code.
As far as someone's called/perceived "animosity" from one group to the other......Sounds like a "broad brush" on a very isolated case.....can't say I've heard of anything in the area code.
06-08-2020, 11:11 AM
#46
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 212
This addresses some of the possibilities in different philosophies.
I know it’s a blog and the numbers aren’t super precise, but the big picture theories seem plausible.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/06/08/u...-disadvantage/
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I know it’s a blog and the numbers aren’t super precise, but the big picture theories seem plausible.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/06/08/u...-disadvantage/
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06-13-2020, 12:09 AM
#47
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 76
Originally Posted by C5Drvr
This addresses some of the possibilities in different philosophies.
I know it’s a blog and the numbers aren’t super precise, but the big picture theories seem plausible.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/06/08/u...-disadvantage/
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I know it’s a blog and the numbers aren’t super precise, but the big picture theories seem plausible.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/06/08/u...-disadvantage/
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06-13-2020, 08:52 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 185
Originally Posted by C5Drvr
This addresses some of the possibilities in different philosophies.
I know it’s a blog and the numbers aren’t super precise, but the big picture theories seem plausible.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/06/08/u...-disadvantage/
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I know it’s a blog and the numbers aren’t super precise, but the big picture theories seem plausible.
https://crankyflier.com/2020/06/08/u...-disadvantage/
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06-13-2020, 03:06 PM
#49
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 55
Originally Posted by massgflight
... and I know no pilot who has any at UAL.
Here’s a recent post on the UAL forum:
”If they file BK and keep operating they could very well drag us down with them in BK.
If they shut down entirely it could save the bacon of pretty much everybody else. Their 18% of the the market would go a long way in matching industry capacity to demand.”
This post had multiple “likes”.
Never forget, UAL was the airline that had an ad campaign centered around TORQUE and how “One Less Airline Can Make a Difference”. It wasn’t until years after Continental bought United that the “Screw Continental” pin was removed from a display case at the United training facility.
It is truly disgusting and I apologize for the rest of the United employees. Just as UALALPA considered themselves “brain surgeons” and the Frontier pilots “”general practitioners” and their *cough* ALPA brothers *cough* at Air Wisconsin not even worthy of a preferential interview after United bought Air Wisconsin and dismantled it, the brain surgeons will cheer if American liquidates.
06-13-2020, 03:15 PM
#50
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: 787
Posts: 3,129
Originally Posted by AirMicronesia
Here’s a recent post on the UAL forum:
”If they file BK and keep operating they could very well drag us down with them in BK.
If they shut down entirely it could save the bacon of pretty much everybody else. Their 18% of the the market would go a long way in matching industry capacity to demand.”
This post had multiple “likes”.
Never forget, UAL was the airline that had an ad campaign centered around TORQUE and how “One Less Airline Can Make a Difference”. It wasn’t until years after Continental bought United that the “Screw Continental” pin was removed from a display case at the United training facility.
It is truly disgusting and I apologize for the rest of the United employees. Just as UALALPA considered themselves “brain surgeons” and the Frontier pilots “”general practitioners” and their *cough* ALPA brothers *cough* at Air Wisconsin not even worthy of a preferential interview after United bought Air Wisconsin and dismantled it, the brain surgeons will cheer if American liquidates.
”If they file BK and keep operating they could very well drag us down with them in BK.
If they shut down entirely it could save the bacon of pretty much everybody else. Their 18% of the the market would go a long way in matching industry capacity to demand.”
This post had multiple “likes”.
Never forget, UAL was the airline that had an ad campaign centered around TORQUE and how “One Less Airline Can Make a Difference”. It wasn’t until years after Continental bought United that the “Screw Continental” pin was removed from a display case at the United training facility.
It is truly disgusting and I apologize for the rest of the United employees. Just as UALALPA considered themselves “brain surgeons” and the Frontier pilots “”general practitioners” and their *cough* ALPA brothers *cough* at Air Wisconsin not even worthy of a preferential interview after United bought Air Wisconsin and dismantled it, the brain surgeons will cheer if American liquidates.
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