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UALfoLIFE 05-29-2020 01:14 PM

I stopped watching after scooter’s fake crying episode last month.

Nucflash 05-29-2020 01:40 PM

“Shared sacrifice” is an unfortunate choice of words because Glenn Tilton used the same. You don’t ever, EVER want to echo Tilton around this pilot group. Huge tactical error, Scott....

pilotgolfer 05-29-2020 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3066649)
“Shared sacrifice” is an unfortunate choice of words because Glenn Tilton used the same. You don’t ever, EVER want to echo Tilton around this pilot group. Huge tactical error, Scott....

I guess it’s time to update the Tilton 2000 to the Kirby 2K.

guppie 05-29-2020 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3066649)
“Shared sacrifice” is an unfortunate choice of words because Glenn Tilton used the same. You don’t ever, EVER want to echo Tilton around this pilot group. Huge tactical error, Scott....

SK forgot the "shared reward" part of Tilton's mantra. "shared sacrifice, shared reward". Remember that?
Only we got the sacrifice (for a decade), and management got the reward. When we reminded them of the shared reward part, we got slapped with a restraining order. It took 2.5 years after the merger to share in that reward!! Good gawd I hope we don't fall for that sh1te again. In my opinion, we would be fools to even consider it. Let's just "negotiate" for a few years.

AirMicronesia 05-29-2020 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Deathray (Post 3066541)
Too tired from laying around all day to watch anything

Try Trailer Park Boys on Netflix. There is a lot of wisdom contained in that show on how to properly deal with management.

AirMicronesia 05-29-2020 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by mattc (Post 3066627)
Dude for real?? It was a video, it came out. I watched it. I responded to it. I'm lapping up puke like a dog? Whaaaaa???

I wasn’t singling you out. It’s a simple fact: All management communication at high levels is choreographed and designed to manage labor. Those members of labor who spread management’s message are helping management. Those members who negotiate in public are helping management.

Pilots like to soak up information. We don’t like feeling out of control. Look at communication from management as a bad ADI. Grab a post it note, cover it up, and ignore it. If you don’t, it is easy for the ADI to create confusion leading to poor performance.

JoePatroni 05-29-2020 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by AirMicronesia (Post 3066687)
Try Trailer Park Boys on Netflix. There is a lot of wisdom contained in that show on how to properly deal with management.

Was it filmed in the LAX employee lot?

Andy 05-29-2020 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3066694)
Was it filmed in the LAX employee lot?

LOL! Over by The Proud Bird? Is that lot still open to park one's RV? (Been a few years since I drove by there)

JoePatroni 05-29-2020 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3066696)
LOL! Over by The Proud Bird? Is that lot still open to park one's RV? (Been a few years since I drove by there)

It reminded me of the land of misfit toys.

Poss 05-29-2020 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by mattc (Post 3066627)
Dude for real?? It was a video, it came out. I watched it. I responded to it. I'm lapping up puke like a dog? Whaaaaa???

It's all about picking the low hanging fruit. Last time I heard it was 50%+1 on the vote.


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