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Duckdude 07-23-2020 07:42 AM

August Training
 
Anyone been scheduled for transition training yet for August? I was thinking I’d have a class assignment by now. I’m displaced from 756 F/O to Airbus FO. Not in any hurry, just curious.

oldmako 07-23-2020 07:50 AM

"Sssshhhhhhhhh...." They might forget about us.

blizzue 07-23-2020 07:52 AM

I’m 11200 ish and emailed PC about it and he said to not expect training anytime soon. I’m also going from 756 to 320.

RJDio 07-23-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 3097692)
"Sssshhhhhhhhh...." They might forget about us.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5f/bc...56c962828c.gifAmen. I’ll keep collecting that captain pay as long as I can.

Nucflash 07-23-2020 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3097693)
I’m 11200 ish and emailed PC about it and he said to not expect training anytime soon. I’m also going from 756 to 320.

There might be an overlying reason he said that.

LeeFXDWG 07-23-2020 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Duckdude (Post 3097687)
Anyone been scheduled for transition training yet for August? I was thinking I’d have a class assignment by now. I’m displaced from 756 F/O to Airbus FO. Not in any hurry, just curious.

From a TK source, the schedule “shell” was built yesterday. Priorities are CQ, LDRQ, then full course based on his info.

That’s all I can offer....

Lee

bigfatdaddy 07-23-2020 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3097791)
From a TK source, the schedule “shell” was built yesterday. Priorities are CQ, LDRQ, then full course based on his info.

That’s all I can offer....

Lee


are they running any more than the 50% or less sim utilization that we’ve been hearing about......ie not nearly at full throttle

Duckdude 07-23-2020 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3097791)
From a TK source, the schedule “shell” was built yesterday. Priorities are CQ, LDRQ, then full course based on his info.

That’s all I can offer....

Lee

Thank you Lee.

UAL97 07-23-2020 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3097693)
I’m 11200 ish and emailed PC about it and he said to not expect training anytime soon. I’m also going from 756 to 320.

That's warn letter territory isn't it?

MasterOfPuppets 07-23-2020 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3097693)
I’m 11200 ish and emailed PC about it and he said to not expect training anytime soon. I’m also going from 756 to 320.

you can’t hold 320 FO anywhere in the company......why would they train you?

blizzue 07-23-2020 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by UAL97 (Post 3097817)
That's warn letter territory isn't it?

yes it is. Oct 30

blizzue 07-23-2020 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3097821)
you can’t hold 320 FO anywhere in the company......why would they train you?

That’s interesting because I haven’t been displaced from 320 FO. Yet.

I dont know what your intent was with this post but it’s pretty divisive and petty. I was simply sharing my situation since both myself and the original poster share similar displacement statuses.

MasterOfPuppets 07-23-2020 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3097950)
That’s interesting because I haven’t been displaced from 320 FO. Yet.

I dont know what your intent was with this post but it’s pretty divisive and petty. I was simply sharing my situation since both myself and the original poster share similar displacement statuses.

ok sorry I hurt your feelers but you need to go look at how many 320 CAs they are planning on......I can’t even hold 320 FO based on the CA numbers and I’m well north of 11,200.

good luck I’m sure they well over staff 320 FO by several hundred.

blizzue 07-23-2020 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3097955)
ok sorry I hurt your feelers but you need to go look at how many 320 CAs they are planning on......I can’t even hold 320 FO based on the CA numbers and I’m well north of 11,200.

good luck I’m sure they well over staff 320 FO by several hundred.

Man, I’m a little busy looking for a new job, the last thing I need is grief from my colleague.

Duckdude 07-23-2020 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3097950)
That’s interesting because I haven’t been displaced from 320 FO. Yet.

I dont know what your intent was with this post but it’s pretty divisive and petty. I was simply sharing my situation since both myself and the original poster share similar displacement statuses.

I appreciated your input blizzue. Good luck with the job search. I couldn’t find anything in 2008 so I started my own business. It sucks but you’ll get through it. I’m hoping to not have to join you in a job search but as a 2007 hire I think it’s possible - time will tell.

JimLaheyTPS 07-23-2020 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3097966)
Man, I’m a little busy looking for a new job, the last thing I need is grief from my colleague.

Don’t pay any attention to his delivery. It’s a stupid forum and lots of straight talk gets lost in translation sometimes.

Hit me up if you live out West and looking for a flying job. I’m getting some leads here and there and more than happy to try and connect some good guys with a soft landing.

Andy 07-24-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3097950)
That’s interesting because I haven’t been displaced from 320 FO. Yet.

I dont know what your intent was with this post but it’s pretty divisive and petty. I was simply sharing my situation since both myself and the original poster share similar displacement statuses.

Man, I gotta say, your posts are 'straight man' territory for anyone who wants to make a joke about furloughs.

Had I wanted to make wisecracks, on your first response from Carlson, I would've put something like - he should've come back with your 320 training will be scheduled for 2023.

As a response to this, I would've put that your displacement from the 320 will be when you're told to turn in your badge.

We all know you're in a sucky place; I've been there twice and am thinking that a third trip out the door is a real possibility for me. Please remember that along with a lot of seriousness, most pilots I know have a sense of gallows humor. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...allows%20humor

It all sucks but we have no control over it so a lot of us try to lighten up the mood with sick jokes. Nothing personal in it.

I hope that 4 or 5 months ago when more than a few of us were saying, 'hope for the best but plan for the worst;' that you chose to make plans for the worst. By this point, you should've already been looking for a job for at least a couple of months and have some leads, especially with your seniority number.
A lot of us didn't get much warning post-911.

COVID's going to take away your job for a while. Don't let it take away your sense of humor.

DashTrash 07-24-2020 08:12 AM

There is now training scheduled for Sept. for pilots around the 10,600 seniority level. This pilot is going from the 756 to 320.

UAL97 07-24-2020 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3098287)
There is now training scheduled for Sept. for pilots around the 10,600 seniority level. This pilot is going from the 756 to 320.

Apparently there are a few between the 9.5-10.6 range being scheduled for full courses. The one that's at 10.6 is going from the 757 to 320. Hopefully that bodes well for no more furloughs beyond the 2250 warn number, at least in the short term.

mtmyers95 07-24-2020 09:55 AM

Long time reader here. I am scheduled for full course 73 at 10170s. I was certain I would be shown the door in January, and still dont discount it, but they got me current on the 320 this month to turn around and give me a full course in the 73 in September. Not sure how that makes sense, but I just fly the planes I guess.

Vernon Demerest 07-24-2020 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by mtmyers95 (Post 3098330)
Long time reader here. I am scheduled for full course 73 at 10170s. I was certain I would be shown the door in January, and still dont discount it, but they got me current on the 320 this month to turn around and give me a full course in the 73 in September. Not sure how that makes sense, but I just fly the planes I guess.

I hope this is a good sign. See you on the 737 this Fall

Vernon

F15andMD11 07-24-2020 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3098287)
There is now training scheduled for Sept. for pilots around the 10,600 seniority level. This pilot is going from the 756 to 320.

Humm...I’m 96xx and nothing scheduled for me. Maybe they’re thinking my displacement will get cnx. Yeah right...🙄

Deathray 07-25-2020 12:11 PM

Aren’t they supposed to train from the bottom of the list up after a displacement?

MasterOfPuppets 07-25-2020 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Deathray (Post 3099067)
Aren’t they supposed to train from the bottom of the list up after a displacement?

no....they just have to pay protect from the top down.....1 for 1

okawner 07-29-2020 09:27 AM

Just got notified of Aug CQ after being DNF since end of May. Around 10300 sen. For whatever it's worth.

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DwightSchrute 07-29-2020 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by okawner (Post 3101187)
Just got notified of Aug CQ after being DNF since end of May. Around 10300 sen. For whatever it's worth.

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That sounds encouraging. Better than not being trained anyway! Any of the TK guys care to chime in an opinion?!

Fresh 07-29-2020 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by DwightSchrute (Post 3101229)
That sounds encouraging. Better than not being trained anyway! Any of the TK guys care to chime in an opinion?!

My uneducated guess is for both directions demand can go later this fall. Demand improves, great! You’re current. If not, your RQ2/3 just got extended if demand gets worse and you’re furloughed.

Galaxy5 07-29-2020 02:13 PM

Technically falls under September training, but there’s also this. 11,200 seniority, WARNed for 30 Oct.

Hello,

Our RTB bidding notification system is autogenerated based on who is eligible. If you are receiving this current CCSmessage, you will not receive a CQ due to a displacement award, retire or furlough. Please disregard the original bidding message.

XXXXXXXXXX
Manpower Planning

DwightSchrute 07-29-2020 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Galaxy5 (Post 3101344)
Technically falls under September training, but there’s also this. 11,200 seniority, WARNed for 30 Oct.

Hello,

Our RTB bidding notification system is autogenerated based on who is eligible. If you are receiving this current CCSmessage, you will not receive a CQ due to a displacement award, retire or furlough. Please disregard the original bidding message.

XXXXXXXXXX
Manpower Planning

Ok that CCS message is auto-generated, but filling training “shells” that are built is a manual process done be a real person per my last TK instructor.

Nucflash 07-29-2020 03:34 PM

Have any WARNs gotten full courses? You never know....

UAL97 07-29-2020 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3101387)
Have any WARNs gotten full courses? You never know....

Not that I'm aware of. But I think there are at least a dozen or so from the 10,000-10,700ish range that are getting full courses in September.

F15andMD11 07-29-2020 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3101387)
Have any WARNs gotten full courses? You never know....

That’d be straight b.s. if so. Like watching jr. pilots on my displaced fleet still flying. Not that I’m complaining since I still can’t get to my base. Just curious, besides the fact that they are still current.
Long courses in September. That’s not good for me, I’m sure there is something at home I could be doing.�

Galaxy5 07-29-2020 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by DwightSchrute (Post 3101386)
Ok that CCS message is auto-generated, but filling training “shells” that are built is a manual process done be a real person per my last TK instructor.

This particular message wasn’t auto generated as the follow up message indicated. The actual RTB message is.

DwightSchrute 07-30-2020 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by Galaxy5 (Post 3101532)
This particular message wasn’t auto generated as the follow up message indicated. The actual RTB message is.

I should’ve said “the” not “that”

as in, “the” CCS message is...

anyway,

the point was that if actual training is on your training schedule a human decided to put it there and did it manually per TK folks.


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