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globetruck 08-15-2020 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by SystemB (Post 3107149)
I agree with you. If the “lost decade” had discouraged many to pursue the career, Covid will deter many more. It may take a few years, but the pendulum will swing once again.


And in 10 years there will be 2 major airlines, a couple really ugly mergers, and people still out on furlough bypass.

Zero shortage of mainline pilots at any point in next 19 years.

Slight shortage of RJ pilots, defined as flying anything smaller than a MAX9 for Mesa.


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tallpilot 08-15-2020 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by globetruck (Post 3110492)
And in 10 years there will be 2 major airlines, a couple really ugly mergers, and people still out on furlough bypass.

Zero shortage of mainline pilots at any point in next 19 years.

Slight shortage of RJ pilots, defined as flying anything smaller than a MAX9 for Mesa.


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I could see a couple ugly mergers if next year is as bad as this year. I don't think we've ever gone 19 years without any hiring at decent places so that seems unlikely, although the more consolidation that happens the more likely it is. I would put forth that too much consolidation opens up opportunities for new entrants and with tons of well qualified pilots on the street they can start up fairly quickly.

If Mesa starts flying MAX9s then I might give up and use the IT degree I've been working on.

Rotorover 08-16-2020 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3110083)
The hurdles are far higher and wider than just bandwidth... said bandwidth would have to achieve inconceivable levels of security, redundancy, and reliability. UAS and spacecraft operations are relevantly informative if not an apples-to-apples comparison. Neither have safety statistics anywhere near pax airlines; spacecraft operate in mostly a highly controlled and predictable environment where the only wild-card is usually the spacecraft's own systems.

Totally agree. The negative impacts to the industry if an airliner's link were hacked would negate any and all cost savings achieved. Don't think the reward will be anywhere comparable to the risk when the bean counters actually sit down and look at this seriously.

Rotorover 08-16-2020 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Triggs (Post 3110321)
There are civilian companies working on this now, and successfully. They are also working on multiple communication platforms, with drones utilizing RF, cellular and wifi for control inputs. The scary ones are the drones that can identify a specific target (human in the case of the one my friend was working with) and track said target through urban or wooded areas using LIDAR (no GPS)

Working on what? Sense and Avoid? Too expensive, civilian world is content letting the DoD spend to solve this first. Increasing available bandwidth? Maybe, but when it comes available, passenger airline use will not be where the public desire will end up putting it to use.

globetruck 08-16-2020 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3110504)
I could see a couple ugly mergers if next year is as bad as this year. I don't think we've ever gone 19 years without any hiring at decent places so that seems unlikely, although the more consolidation that happens the more likely it is. I would put forth that too much consolidation opens up opportunities for new entrants and with tons of well qualified pilots on the street they can start up fairly quickly.

If Mesa starts flying MAX9s then I might give up and use the IT degree I've been working on.


That’s funny... I meant to type 10 and not 19. But 19 years isn’t really all that far-fetched. I wouldn’t call 19 years “likely” but it’s not unquestionable at this point.


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Grumble 08-18-2020 08:49 PM

Any day now...

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-on-the-ground

Speed Select 08-19-2020 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Grumble (Post 3111994)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkXya5ycUAI


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