Shame on **************
 

This is getting out of hand.

I can’t believe people are standing by an anonymous group of people who:

- spread false and fake information
- use stolen email list to further their agenda (I got an email, never signed up)
- use clickbait titles to lure you in
- use “press releases” to seem like they are legit

It’s clear to see why they stay anonymous, because if they used their real names they would actually get called out on the unethical crap they are trying to pull off.

Research and double check anything you see.

Too funny!

No one has ever heard a peep from you till a week or so ago when the AIP was announced. You showed up and carpet bombed this place with very well written and comprehensive posts supporting the agreement. It looks and reads to me as though you are in the upper echelon of the union and are using this forum to spread the official party line to sell the agreement.
Is that you Bob? Because it sure doesn't look like something Johnny line pilot would write in 20 minutes hand on his overnight.

And that would be fine but aren't you also anonymous? You can't have it both ways. That's my problem with what's going on here. And you can't research the rumors if they're squashed immediately.

Seriously, look at what the union did on the other forum. Poof! Heads roll just like that and Scott and Andy get to work overtime.

I am NOT a supporter of the phony Gardener. I skip his missives. But this place needs a BIG dose of the REAL Gardener.

Adios.

Too funny as well mako. I'm just a line pilot, no union involvement.

I am posting on APC, not bombarding thousands of pilots from a stolen email list with fake press releases and have a semi legit looking website setup. I think there is a big difference here, and those doing that need to sign their name, but of course won't do it for clear reasons.

I wrote out the facts and possible scenarios I saw, at no point did I EVER try to mislead anyone like this group is doing. If I am wrong about something, please let me know and I will correct it as needed. I am all for having a civil discussion.

I don't control the other forums, the people that got banned created their own forum. This should not excuse the behavior of the .org group .

P.S. I feel flattered about your comment about very well written posts, thank you.

MODERATOR NOTE:

The title of the website in question is being obfuscated for violation of the forum terms of service. While APC is not taking a side, pro or con, with the TA we will continue to observe and enforce our terms. Additionally, several users (some holding multiple accounts) were banned for violating the terms.

There is a benefit to anonymity that users can enjoy while using APC, although It’s our view that much of the dialog in the recent TA related threads probably belongs within the confines of the union hall. As a reminder, posts here are viewable by anyone on the open internet.