Junior Group Discussion and Concerns
10-03-2020, 07:56 PM
#21
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Position: WB Bunkie
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic
My complaint, what other major airline pilot gets out earned by a regional pilot with far less flight experience in most cases? Our guys on probation are on equivalent of year 3 FO pay at Commutair. I feel like this TA should have established a min annual pay baseline that pilots can survive on. Not a salary where the only justification to complaint is “you can take a COLA”.
10-03-2020, 08:26 PM
#22
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Posts: 1,326
Originally Posted by baseball
I got an idea. Lets put the new hires in the left seat, and give them 12 year CA pay. That should just about take care of their concerns. Better yet. Let's make the senior pilots pay their dues for them.. That should just about take care of those concerns.
10-04-2020, 03:46 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: Waco CG-4 center seat
Posts: 863
Originally Posted by baseball
What's really funny is that we got some wack-jobs saying "a thinly veiled" whatever....The junior pilots got issues.....
blah blah blah
Now we got the senior pilots with issues and concerns about their retirements. but someone says it's a thinly veiled whatever."
Lets talk all about the junior pilots concerns. Lets air those out.
Meanwhile we got a very junior NC helping them with their concerns.
Am I missing something?
This LOA is a crap taquito disguised as a shtt sandwich.
blah blah blah
Now we got the senior pilots with issues and concerns about their retirements. but someone says it's a thinly veiled whatever."
Lets talk all about the junior pilots concerns. Lets air those out.
Meanwhile we got a very junior NC helping them with their concerns.
Am I missing something?
This LOA is a crap taquito disguised as a shtt sandwich.
10-04-2020, 06:54 PM
#25
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Posts: 108
Anyone here get interest by a cargo outfit? I might have a chance with one of the 2 main ones, but now that furloughs are off the table or delayed, not sure what options there are for keeping UAL as a return option. COLA's are still employment and only guaranteed for 3 months at a time, plus would be unavailable as an option if CARES 2 passes and the TA reverts. Has anyone discussed a PLA now that the multi-year COLA bid is closed? Obviously, my hope would be to keep my options open for return, but it looks like there's not avenue for that.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
10-04-2020, 07:03 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by okieskies99
Anyone here get interest by a cargo outfit? I might have a chance with one of the 2 main ones, but now that furloughs are off the table or delayed, not sure what options there are for keeping UAL as a return option. COLA's are still employment and only guaranteed for 3 months at a time, plus would be unavailable as an option if CARES 2 passes and the TA reverts. Has anyone discussed a PLA now that the multi-year COLA bid is closed? Obviously, my hope would be to keep my options open for return, but it looks like there's not avenue for that.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
JMHO
10-04-2020, 07:46 PM
#27
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Position: A320 FO
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Originally Posted by okieskies99
Anyone here get interest by a cargo outfit? I might have a chance with one of the 2 main ones, but now that furloughs are off the table or delayed, not sure what options there are for keeping UAL as a return option. COLA's are still employment and only guaranteed for 3 months at a time, plus would be unavailable as an option if CARES 2 passes and the TA reverts. Has anyone discussed a PLA now that the multi-year COLA bid is closed? Obviously, my hope would be to keep my options open for return, but it looks like there's not avenue for that.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
10-05-2020, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by okieskies99
Anyone here get interest by a cargo outfit? I might have a chance with one of the 2 main ones, but now that furloughs are off the table or delayed, not sure what options there are for keeping UAL as a return option. COLA's are still employment and only guaranteed for 3 months at a time, plus would be unavailable as an option if CARES 2 passes and the TA reverts. Has anyone discussed a PLA now that the multi-year COLA bid is closed? Obviously, my hope would be to keep my options open for return, but it looks like there's not avenue for that.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
I'm wondering if anyone has recent experience and might have found a way.
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