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04-18-2021, 06:10 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by vipereaglebus
Wasn’t it just 6 months ago the company was threatening to furlough a third of its pilots? And now we’re hiring....potentially 1500?
I don’t mean to turn this into another LOA debate, but it’s important to remember how this turn of events played out when the company threatens to furlough massive numbers next time.
I don’t mean to turn this into another LOA debate, but it’s important to remember how this turn of events played out when the company threatens to furlough massive numbers next time.
Nice work. You should run for rep.
04-18-2021, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
lol decisions are made in real time with current events. Did we know the vaccine rollout would be this fast?
would be hiring if vote no passed?
would be hiring if vote no passed?
And then its conclusion plays out in slow motion. The ending is usually predictable if you've paid attention to history.
04-18-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
WRT to contract moving union news, bad news stuff usually happens all at once. In "real time".
And then its conclusion plays out in slow motion. The ending is usually predictable if you've paid attention to history.
And then its conclusion plays out in slow motion. The ending is usually predictable if you've paid attention to history.
04-19-2021, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
The EVENT is not the issue here Donny.
"Were you listening to the Dudes story Donny? You’re like a child who wanders in in the middle of a movie and wants to know......."
"Were you listening to the Dudes story Donny? You’re like a child who wanders in in the middle of a movie and wants to know......."
04-19-2021, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Probably. This hiring is made possible by billions in govt money- not the LOA. As an illustration of this, the company suspended the credit concessions of the LOA during hiring. IOW they don’t need them.
Also, an ancillary issue is the removal of high priced labor off the top of the seniority list. Company saves big money if it has a younger pilot group. Less vacation and less sick time usage. More productivity for cheaper labor. Lots of studies out on this stuff.
If the company could push 2000 more ultra senior pilots out the door without sacrificing schedule integrity it would do so.
04-19-2021, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Oletimer
That's correct.
Also, an ancillary issue is the removal of high priced labor off the top of the seniority list. Company saves big money if it has a younger pilot group. Less vacation and less sick time usage. More productivity for cheaper labor. Lots of studies out on this stuff.
If the company could push 2000 more ultra senior pilots out the door without sacrificing schedule integrity it would do so.
Also, an ancillary issue is the removal of high priced labor off the top of the seniority list. Company saves big money if it has a younger pilot group. Less vacation and less sick time usage. More productivity for cheaper labor. Lots of studies out on this stuff.
If the company could push 2000 more ultra senior pilots out the door without sacrificing schedule integrity it would do so.
04-19-2021, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Probably. This hiring is made possible by billions in govt money- not the LOA. As an illustration of this, the company suspended the credit concessions of the LOA during hiring. IOW they don’t need them.
04-19-2021, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
It’s not like the early retirements were free. Paying those guys a reduced amount to do nothing, and hiring a bunch of new guys can’t be THAT much of a bargain.
04-19-2021, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
I would argue our timeline would be significantly pushed back if the LOA didn’t pass. 1/3 of our pilots would have been furloughed. That means at least a year to get our pilots trained up again. With the LOA passed no one got furloughed and we can start hiring right away.
Last edited by TodKindrsChikun; 04-19-2021 at 11:02 AM.
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