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Knotcher 04-19-2021 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3223770)
I would argue our timeline would be significantly pushed back if the LOA didn’t pass. 1/3 of our pilots would have been furloughed. That means at least a year to get our pilots trained up again. With the LOA passed no one got furloughed and we can start hiring right away.

Wow cool story man!

Sniper66 04-19-2021 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun (Post 3223786)
They were going to put 4000 pilots on the street? Not buying it one bit.



1750 for sure
i am glad we have the LOA in order for those guys to have a paycheck

getting furlough sucks


PS: middle group captain here that stayed as a captain after the LOA so you don’t start that excuse...FO with captain pay or so

ERAUAV8TR 04-19-2021 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3223973)
1750 for sure
i am glad we have the LOA in order for those guys to have a paycheck

getting furlough sucks


PS: middle group captain here that stayed as a captain after the LOA so you don’t start that excuse...FO with captain pay or so

thank you for your vote. Sooo thankful

Aquaticus 04-19-2021 04:21 PM

We had a lot of people 4500+ talking about preparing for a third furlough either for attention or genuine fear because "they had seen this before." It doesn't go both ways. We didn't kick the bottom of the list to the curb and we outed the idiotic pockets on each side of the argument.

TodKindrsChikun 04-19-2021 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3223973)
1750 for sure
i am glad we have the LOA in order for those guys to have a paycheck

getting furlough sucks


PS: middle group captain here that stayed as a captain after the LOA so you don’t start that excuse...FO with captain pay or so


1750 is a more rational number than the garbage that was thrown around. I’m glad you have an opinion. I think we’re stronger when we have genuine differences that allow for well thought, crafted options. United isn’t the only source of income in this world. You’re stating the obvious about getting furloughed. I don’t require an excuse to justify my beliefs.

Meridian Gamer 04-19-2021 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3223977)
thank you for your vote. Sooo thankful

The furloughed guys at Compass, Trans States, and ExpressJet (and others) also thank you for your vote. Less competition for the tiny fraction of jobs that were out there 6 months ago.

Knotcher 04-19-2021 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 3223973)
1750 for sure
i am glad we have the LOA in order for those guys to have a paycheck

getting furlough sucks


PS: middle group captain here that stayed as a captain after the LOA so you don’t start that excuse...FO with captain pay or so

And with the CARES money all those guys would have kept getting a paycheck anyway.

hummingbear 04-19-2021 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3223770)
I would argue our timeline would be significantly pushed back if the LOA didn’t pass. 1/3 of our pilots would have been furloughed. That means at least a year to get our pilots trained up again. With the LOA passed no one got furloughed and we can start hiring right away.

We’ve been on govt $$$ every month except November, so if there were furloughs in that brief window, they would have all been brought back months ago. Everyone would still be on property & getting full pay with or without the LOA.

Broncofan 04-20-2021 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3224041)
We’ve been on govt $$$ every month except November, so if there were furloughs in that brief window, they would have all been brought back months ago. Everyone would still be on property & getting full pay with or without the LOA.

that’s fair, but no one knew for sure the govt money would keep coming. Hindsight is 20/20. Also we don’t know how many they would have furloughed. There were so many unknowns. I am right at the border of being in the bottom 3rd and was expecting to be furloughed. Thankfully I was ready for it if need be but I know a lot of guys wouldn’t have been so I’m glad we voted to keep guys on property even if they would have been anyway.

hummingbear 04-20-2021 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3224252)
that’s fair, but no one knew for sure the govt money would keep coming. Hindsight is 20/20.

Not saying anyone could have known what was coming, only contending the idea that the LOA is what got us to where we are now. Govt cheese kept pilots paid & the airline solvent, & it’s definitely what put us in a position to start hiring for a post-pandemic market while we’re still at 50% pilot block hours.That would NOT be happening with an active LOA but no CARES $$$.


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