If we opened an Orlando base, no one under 50% would be there lol.

So you're saying... there's a chance ! {insert meme that wouldn't populate....}

Post 22-04V, able to hold a line in CLE CA at around 6300 seniority?

I have to ask…. why does this matter to you? That’s so far into the future for someone not employed by United.

Any updates to this in 2025? Thanks in advance.

most recent vacancy bid had two captains leave for the 787 but were backfilled. Zero attrition.
FOs are also being backfilled if they leave. Will that continue? I don’t know. I’ve been worried about it since the early 2000s but I’m still here. Do whatcha like.

After the most recent vacancy bid it shows 143 Captains and 135 FOs.

In the last year it has shrunk by about 10 Captains and 10 FOs. This also happened at several other bases as we were way ahead on 737 staffing and then the deliveries stopped with the Boeing debacle. So, at some of the pilots that bid out of the base were not replaced. That seems to be over as anybody that bid out recently was replaced.


I don't think there is any plan to actually shrink any of the bases as we are finally getting 737s at a faster pace again, so while I don't think it will grow significantly, I also don't think it will shrink. With all the 737s coming I see the most likely outcome as a small amount of growth.

No indication of any near-term risk. The question is long term. Are you worried about finishing your career in Cleveland in 2035 or 2055?

I just started at AA a few weeks ago, I live in PIT so I can drive 2 hours to cle and sit reserve at my house. I have little kids so that makes me want that more than anything. If UA calls me soon I just want to be able to make an educated decision about what the future holds there. I know it’s hard to tell and nothing is guaranteed. Just trying to get as much info as I can. Thank you guys.

There's no indication that Cleveland is at any risk anytime soon ... certainly not while you still have little kids.

Cleveland is a small base and there's not a ton of movement - pilots are typically there because they want cleveland. junior FO currently about 1500 off the bottom. Current prediction is over 2000 pilots hired in 2026. FWIW.