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Eagle06 01-12-2022 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by GoCats67 (Post 3351805)
Do you happen to know what the other offerings were. Somebody elsewhere said only 756/777/787 which I find hard to believe. 62 new hires need to be spread out across as many fleets as possible to keep the whole thing moving.

With as backed up as OEs have been, next summer is going to be very interesting!!! Folks that start in March won't be available till after the summer at this rate

At a quick glance there were about 45 737/320 awards out of 62.

massgflight 01-12-2022 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3349166)
It’s not like a LCA will just sign them off as soon as they have the minimum hours. The sign off means that they’re ready and if it takes someone a few more hours to get there, the training department and LCA’s will make sure that they get the time and training that they need to be safe and comfortable. Like you said, we don’t hire inexperienced pilots.


Bingo. Lots of concerns that are a stretch. We have plenty of checks and balances.

Airhoss 01-13-2022 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3349166)
It’s not like a LCA will just sign them off as soon as they have the minimum hours. The sign off means that they’re ready and if it takes someone a few more hours to get there, the training department and LCA’s will make sure that they get the time and training that they need to be safe and comfortable. Like you said, we don’t hire inexperienced pilots.

As far as not hiring inexperienced pilots, yes we have in fact hired some extremely inexperienced pilots.

Hedley 01-13-2022 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3352000)
As far as not hiring inexperienced pilots, yes we have in fact hired some extremely inexperienced pilots.

I’m not denying that there are a few that luck out and get hired with very low experience, but the vast majority of people are highly qualified. As this hiring wave continues though, I’m sure that the experience level of our new hires will decrease as desirable candidates become harder to find.

Airhoss 01-13-2022 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3352009)
I’m not denying that there are a few that luck out and get hired with very low experience, but the vast majority of people are highly qualified. As this hiring wave continues though, I’m sure that the experience level of our new hires will decrease as desirable candidates become harder to find.

Agreed, and as stated there was a group of wet behind the ears, extremely low experience pilots hired several years ago. Hopefully that hiring practice has been stopped.

prt135 01-13-2022 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3352055)
Agreed, and as stated there was a group of wet behind the ears, extremely low experience pilots hired several years ago. Hopefully that hiring practice has been stopped.

What do you consider being “extremely low experience” ?

ThumbsUp 01-13-2022 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by prt135 (Post 3352057)
What do you consider being “extremely low experience” ?

We had a group hired a few years ago that were zero to hero types from ATCA. I think the last of that group just finished OE, but it is no longer a program.

prt135 01-13-2022 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3352072)
We had a group hired a few years ago that were zero to hero types from ATCA. I think the last of that group just finished OE, but it is no longer a program.

Oh that’s right, was that the Lufthansa CFI program?

ThumbsUp 01-13-2022 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by prt135 (Post 3352105)
Oh that’s right, was that the Lufthansa CFI program?

Essentially, yes. I don’t really know much about the program itself, other than it was ongoing at the time.

icohftb 01-13-2022 10:58 AM

How often is long call switched to short call reserve on the WB? Wondering if it's possible to do long call LAX from PHX. (With Worst case driving as an option)


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