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I’m a ATL-EWR commuter on the 73. I started in July and with the backlog in OE never sat reserve (until Dec due to the massive G-line adjustment). I’m back to a line in Jan/Feb. I can hold commutable back end (or front end) trips right now. Sometimes I get commutable both ends. You will have to be ok with some red eyes on occasion but they aren’t the worst thing ever. I am also able to swap into commutable both ends fairly regularly as long as I’m willing to lose an hour or two of pay.

I have commuted over the years to DCA/IAD/ORD and the ewr commute is by far my least favorite. There are at least 25 pilots I have personally met that commute to ewr and I’m sure a bunch more I haven’t met. There are boatloads of FAs that commute to ewr and usually the most junior of them are deep into the 90’s hire date. It is a tough and unpredictable commute but thus far I have not been able to make it some way or another. Just be aware of that.

The 73 fleet out of EWR is probably your best bet for movement and great flying. We go EVERYWHERE. I will see west coast, east coast, Midwest, Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America at some point every month. Generally no more than two legs a day.

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756 would also cover JFK. I don’t think right now they are doing any LGA flying on it though that is always subject to change. At one point we were flying the 757-300 into LGA.

If you bid either the 737 or 320 you can bid-up to the 756, or any widebody, at any time. You are only restricted in moving 737 to 320 or 320 to 737 and that lasts for two years.
If you bid 756, you are locked out of both the 320 and 737 for two years.

I'd recommend bidding 737, or 320 if you think you'd like it better, then fly a few months before reevaluating if and when you want to bid the 756 or a widebody. You'll have access to the bid awards for the fleet(s) that you're interested in and will be able to see what your seniority can hold and you'll have a better understanding on what flying for UA is like and what is important to you.

The layovers on the 737 are better than the 320. From EWR, lots of island layovers. Fewer legs per day. More pilots and more trips so more flexibility in bidding. Many in the 320 fleet prefer the 320 because of the airplane and the comfort factor in the cockpit.

Pay is also slightly higher in the 737 fleet. The 319 and 737-700 pay the same lower-rate; the 320 and the rest of the 737s pay the same higher-rate. There's only aroun d 40 737-700 out of over 400 737s and around half (?) of the 320 fleet are 319. That means you'll fly the lower-paying airplane more often and your blended rate (what you're paid for all non-flying activities like guarantee, vacation, and training) is less as it's is a combination of the two rates based on the ratio of high and lower paying airframes in the overall fleet.

What’s the initial training footprint look like? All in Denver? Or is there some at home study?

The CBTs can be completed at home. (3 days). The remaining training schedule is all in Denver.

As I recall at least partial weekends off and positive space too and from, it’s really not bad

Word is, first week indoc is Tuesday - Saturday. Early day Saturday. Can go home if you want (positive space). Second week is Tuesday -Friday.

mon - wed following week is at home self study. Then start your aircraft training. Four-ish weeks for fleet training (depends on type, of course). Can go home positive space on days off, which can vary wildly. It’s not going to always be sat/sun.

after that, wait for OE, which can be anywhere from 2 days to 3 months, depending on fleet.

Much much more commutable trips on the 737 versus the 320.

A lot more flying to choose from , including broken pairings and melt downs , Deadheads etc. loved the bus for 10 years (5 here) but at TK now training for the 737, just so much better flying esp if you commute and need flexibility and need to stay relatively senior in category.

Almost. After Indoc is done (Friday), you get Sat-Sunday off (go home if you want, most people do), then IFT days 1 and 2 on Mon-Tuesday. Then go home again, wait anywhere from 1-3 weeks to start fleet training. People have the option to do the 3x days of CBTs at home (default) or at FTC, but you'd have to ask Training Hotels to start your reservation early, which isn't an issue.