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JetDoc 07-25-2022 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by speedbird85 (Post 3466612)
How’s the training overall? Do most make it through?

It's AQP which translates to No Pilot Left Behind. In all seriousness though, the training is very good. Show up prepared and you'll have no problem at all. If you are having trouble LET SOMEONE KNOW! They will get you the help you need.

FlewNavy 07-25-2022 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by speedbird85 (Post 3466612)
How’s the training overall? Do most make it through?

The company will spend countless extra hours getting somebody through training as long as they don’t have a bad attitude. Don’t sweat training as it has a tendency to make you dwell on errors rather than learning the lesson and moving on. Study hard, don’t expect to be spoon fed, show up every day with positivity and you will be fine. Examples of bad attitudes - entitlement, superiority of previous company, disdain for SOPs that you don’t like etc. That being said - don’t sacrifice family issues etc for training. The company recognizes we are all juggling balls and some are made of glass. Don’t drop the wrong ball and have your priorities set correctly and training management will support you.

814Pilot 07-27-2022 04:03 PM

unfortunately due to unforeseen family issues, I may be taking a break from flying… so i’ve had to pull my app from the hiring process and cancel my interview. Any idea on when I would be able to apply again? Would it be the 12 months waiting period? Thanks

idlethrust 07-27-2022 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by 814Pilot (Post 3468131)
unfortunately due to unforeseen family issues, I may be taking a break from flying… so i’ve had to pull my app from the hiring process and cancel my interview. Any idea on when I would be able to apply again? Would it be the 12 months waiting period? Thanks

Maybe go ahead and interview now and ask for a class date down the road , if successful.

togaflaps 07-27-2022 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by 814Pilot (Post 3468131)
unfortunately due to unforeseen family issues, I may be taking a break from flying… so i’ve had to pull my app from the hiring process and cancel my interview. Any idea on when I would be able to apply again? Would it be the 12 months waiting period? Thanks

You should communicate with the interviewers. Maybe reschedule to a later date or interview now and get the cjo and get a class in a handful of months or when you're available. I'm sure they'll work with you.Did you just cancel everything with no explanation?

BarnesCat 07-27-2022 05:01 PM

At the interview they said it’s likely to have a 3 month wait between indoc and fleet training. Is that what people have been seeing?


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jacburn 07-27-2022 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by BarnesCat (Post 3468181)
At the interview they said it’s likely to have a 3 month wait between indoc and fleet training. Is that what people have been seeing?


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That time is shrinking. Some are getting IOE right after sims and some are still waiting.

Oma4545 07-28-2022 06:22 AM

Anyone care to explain what California sick is? I’m a commuter to LAX and if I’m paying for something I’d like to know what’s available to me. Thanks

jdm7999 07-28-2022 09:57 AM

I had to bump my interview a month due to a family emergency (even though United says no deferrals/changes in their communications). I'd recommend continuing forward with your interview date and email the hiring team and communicate what's going on. If they call you for an interview, it means they want you. But life happens and they can be flexible. Just ask. Worst case is they tell you to reapply but if you pull it yourself, you HAVE to re-apply...

6ppc 07-30-2022 05:10 PM

Can anyone share what the current wait looks like for the different airframes for initial training? I assume NB is couple weeks and WBis few months, starting indoc soon and trying to plan ahead.

BlueScholar 07-31-2022 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by 6ppc (Post 3470104)
Can anyone share what the current wait looks like for the different airframes for initial training? I assume NB is couple weeks and WBis few months, starting indoc soon and trying to plan ahead.

I haven’t heard of any significant delays for sim training. IOE has been delayed for some folks, but you can’t project the delays because once the backlog hits a certain point the company triages the list. So just because the previous class waited a month for IOE it doesn’t mean you won’t get called 3 days after your sim check.

Pookie 08-04-2022 06:03 PM

Finished sim at the end of July and been sitting home waiting for IOE. I was recently told to wait another week for information. I think they are really backlogged.

Pookie 08-04-2022 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by CaptHustle (Post 3464156)
Any idea how long it takes to hold a WB in LAX?

Got WB LAX as a March new hire.

BobbyLeeSwagger 08-04-2022 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Pookie (Post 3472788)
Got WB LAX as a March new hire.

I don't think so

BirdOn 08-04-2022 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3466322)
Car will be a distractor at best and at worst cause you to spend less time with your classmates and training partners. I’ve been through 3 qual courses and never once ever “missed” having a car. Also…don’t split up with your training partner unless they live locally. Having one pilot at the Dtree and the other staying downtown is a bad recipe for prep unless your training partner is a time hardened slam clicker to begin with. Events are 6-8hrs in the building plus van time. Add to that exercise, sleep, studying and the inconvenience of eating and there isn’t much time leftover.

If you bring a car you're going to find it on cinderblocks one morning with probably some homeless people sleeping in it.

CaptHustle 08-04-2022 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3472851)
I don't think so

So maybe yes maybe no? Lol

luv757 08-05-2022 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Pookie (Post 3472788)
Got WB LAX as a March new hire.

March of 2021 maybe.

01110011 08-05-2022 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by BirdOn (Post 3472854)
If you bring a car you're going to find it on cinderblocks one morning with probably some homeless people sleeping in it.

lol if you think the area by TK is anywhere near that bad I have a reverse mortgage and some gold to sell you. It’s a “leave your Rolex in your room and don’t run at night with headphones in” neighborhood at worst.

Virginia Ave, by delta HQ in Atlanta on the other hand….

banned 08-07-2022 04:45 AM

Guam
 
Does anyone have any input into what life is like on Guam? I used to live in a pretty isolated place and it was a really good time. Do they have reasonable schools there and is there a good mix of people?

PilotBases 08-07-2022 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by BirdOn (Post 3472854)
If you bring a car you're going to find it on cinderblocks one morning with probably some homeless people sleeping in it.

I think they call that a “soup kitchen”.

Swakid8 08-07-2022 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by banned (Post 3473853)
Does anyone have any input into what life is like on Guam? I used to live in a pretty isolated place and it was a really good time. Do they have reasonable schools there and is there a good mix of people?

Its been since 2011since I lived in Guam. Can’t comment on schools. But if you like humidity, outdoor activities, and scuba diving. Guam is a great place. I lived there from 2006-2011

Cameronhoward 08-07-2022 02:36 PM

Hey quick benefits question. At United can you add your in-laws to your flight benefits in liue of your biological parents ?

CQKSNT 08-07-2022 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Cameronhoward (Post 3474082)
Hey quick benefits question. At United can you add your in-laws to your flight benefits in liue of your biological parents ?

No, you cannot. If your parents have passed, you lose those passes and cannot use them for in-laws or anyone else.

Aviator4life 08-07-2022 04:13 PM

Are they still requiring proof of covid vaccine to show up for your interview?

sofarup 08-07-2022 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Aviator4life (Post 3474134)
Are they still requiring proof of covid vaccine to show up for your interview?

Yes, they are.

Swakid8 08-08-2022 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by CQKSNT (Post 3474093)
No, you cannot. If your parents have passed, you lose those passes and cannot use them for in-laws or anyone else.

Damn… That sucks.

CaptHustle 08-08-2022 09:20 AM

After fleet is bid do we get paired with a newhire fo for sims or an upgrading / transition ca?

Wildflyin 08-08-2022 09:47 AM

Indoc New Hire Questions
 

Originally Posted by CaptHustle (Post 3474518)
After fleet is bid do we get paired with a newhire fo for sims or an upgrading / transition ca?


Depends. it seemed like in my class they paired a lot of the military and 135 people with upgrading captains, while most of the 121 regional people were paired together.


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Lumberg823 08-08-2022 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3474451)
Damn… That sucks.

You ought to be able to give up half your passes though and make one of your outlaws an unlimited passrider as if they were one of your parents. The other outlaw would have to use one of your remaining buddy passes. Hope that helps

gluesniffer 08-08-2022 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by sofarup (Post 3474154)
Yes, they are.

No they are not. You can interview without it and upon CJO must apply for a RAP.

CaptHustle 08-09-2022 06:38 PM

On the 75/76 in Lax is a reserve doing mostly east coast red eyes?

JetDoc 08-10-2022 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by CaptHustle (Post 3475517)
On the 75/76 in Lax is a reserve doing mostly east coast red eyes?

The bid package for September shows a JFK departure as part of a brutal 5 day trip almost daily at 22:35 with a few IAD and ORD departures spread throughout the month around the same departure time. My best guess would be a yes. Small base, only 66 F/O's so buyer beware.

Riverside 08-10-2022 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3473170)
lol if you think the area by TK is anywhere near that bad I have a reverse mortgage and some gold to sell you. It’s a “leave your Rolex in your room and don’t run at night with headphones in” neighborhood at worst.

Virginia Ave, by delta HQ in Atlanta on the other hand….

That waffle house got some entertaining people at all hours.

01110011 08-10-2022 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Riverside (Post 3475839)
That waffle house got some entertaining people at all hours.

Over the course of about a year I saw; a bullet going through one of the top floors of the crown from a drive by at the Louisiana Bistro, 3 employee car thefts, scattered shell casings on the sidewalk, and the room over yell “We’ll see how you feel about that when I get my gun” after an argument.

I considered sleeping in the bathtub.

Meanwhile one person out of the 2,000 new hires and 12,000+ Recurrents gets mugged in a parking lot near TK and people act like their car is going to end up on blocks or they’re going to be murdered for their new balances. 😂

aviator1998 08-10-2022 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3475857)
Over the course of about a year I saw; a bullet going through one of the top floors of the crown from a drive by at the Louisiana Bistro, 3 employee car thefts, scattered shell casings on the sidewalk, and the room over yell “We’ll see how you feel about that when I get my gun” after an argument.

I considered sleeping in the bathtub.

Meanwhile one person out of the 2,000 new hires and 12,000+ Recurrents gets mugged in a parking lot near TK and people act like their car is going to end up on blocks or they’re going to be murdered for their new balances. 😂

Can confirm Virgina Ave. is a different world. Terrifying walk across the street to FS to say the least. Every instructor assigned to me had a story about either being mugged or observing someone getting mugged over the years

hummingbear 08-10-2022 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by banned (Post 3473853)
Does anyone have any input into what life is like on Guam? I used to live in a pretty isolated place and it was a really good time. Do they have reasonable schools there and is there a good mix of people?

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Furloughedboi 08-10-2022 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3466322)
Car will be a distractor at best and at worst cause you to spend less time with your classmates and training partners. I’ve been through 3 qual courses and never once ever “missed” having a car. Also…don’t split up with your training partner unless they live locally. Having one pilot at the Dtree and the other staying downtown is a bad recipe for prep unless your training partner is a time hardened slam clicker to begin with. Events are 6-8hrs in the building plus van time. Add to that exercise, sleep, studying and the inconvenience of eating and there isn’t much time leftover.

Matter of opinion really.

I brought my family to training, along with my car, never felt stressed about training and we spent plenty of time exploring Denver

sofarup 08-10-2022 01:46 PM

Back when I went to ATL for 135 training at that FSI there I never had an ounce of knowledge of how dangerous that area was. We stayed at the Drury there and would go to that Waffle House and the Irish pub behind it (great pork chops) all the time. After switching to 121 and learning more about it I don't miss it at all.

CaptHustle 08-16-2022 07:57 AM

Is it correct that the Lax 75/76 there is no global reserve? Im guessing mostly just transcons and not much international?

JetDoc 08-16-2022 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by CaptHustle (Post 3478381)
Is it correct that the Lax 75/76 there is no global reserve? Im guessing mostly just transcons and not much international?

LAX and SFO are both basic (non-global) fleets on the 75/76 with zero international flying with some limited flying to Hawaii. You will see lots of EWR, JFK, ORD, BOS and MCO.


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