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turbojet28 01-19-2022 04:15 PM

Logbooks for Interview
 
I am currently at another airline, interested in making a move to United. I fully admit that I haven’t always done a very stellar job logging all of my flights as I never anticipated leaving. Absolutely my fault and it shouldn’t have happened. Personal circumstances have changed and I am interested in making a move. I have a year or so where I didn’t log anything, and then got back in the habit of keeping a good logbook. Will this be an issue for me in an interview?

WaterRooster 01-19-2022 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by turbojet28 (Post 3356160)
I am currently at another airline, interested in making a move to United. I fully admit that I haven’t always done a very stellar job logging all of my flights as I never anticipated leaving. Absolutely my fault and it shouldn’t have happened. Personal circumstances have changed and I am interested in making a move. I have a year or so where I didn’t log anything, and then got back in the habit of keeping a good logbook. Will this be an issue for me in an interview?

Yes. You need an accurate logbook, so if you are missing a year you might want to get it all in. Electronic logbooks are great for this.

turbojet28 01-19-2022 04:45 PM

Thankfully I was able to locate my old printouts from that year timeframe and will be able to add the flights to my electronic log. Really kicking myself for getting lax about it for a while. Will never do that again

Pilot4000 02-12-2022 12:38 PM

Does United care about having recurrent training and checkrides logged, or just initials?

JTwift 02-12-2022 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3371363)
Does United care about having recurrent training and checkrides logged, or just initials?

All of them logged and tabbed.

rainyday 02-12-2022 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3371363)
Does United care about having recurrent training and checkrides logged, or just initials?

I didn’t have any sim time logged or CQ. But I provided a training summary from my company. They didn’t ask one question on my log book at all.

McNugent 02-12-2022 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot4000 (Post 3371363)
Does United care about having recurrent training and checkrides logged, or just initials?

Nobody is going to look at your recurrent training and checkrides. Those will only matter if you fail an event, so definitely disclose if that's the case. Don't try to hide anything.

As far as your other checkrides: PPL, INST, COMM, MULTI etc... Those are helpful if you tab them.

JTwift 02-12-2022 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by McNugent (Post 3371403)
Nobody is going to look at your recurrent training and checkrides. Those will only matter if you fail an event, so definitely disclose if that's the case. Don't try to hide anything.

As far as your other checkrides: PPL, INST, COMM, MULTI etc... Those are helpful if you tab them.

The interview instructions say to clearly identify ALL checkrides, fyi. Even 141 phase checks. AQP, 121, etc. ALL

BurritoBeach 02-12-2022 06:27 PM

I've never logged any sim training my entire airline career, nor have I ever logged checkrides or training events and nobody said a word about it to me during my interview. That was three years ago so maybe things are different now (I doubt it) but I wouldn't worry about it.

McNugent 02-13-2022 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3371450)
The interview instructions say to clearly identify ALL checkrides, fyi. Even 141 phase checks. AQP, 121, etc. ALL

Well, if you've logged those then more power to ya. I have never seen anyone with logbooks that include 121 CQ events. Type rides? Maybe. People will typically notate that with logbook tabs at the beginning of IOE for new types or change of seat.

Iregretnothing 02-14-2022 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3371450)
The interview instructions say to clearly identify ALL checkrides, fyi. Even 141 phase checks. AQP, 121, etc. ALL

When did you interview? I interviewed in October and the instructions didn’t mention any of those things. It just said bring logbooks and if you use an electronic version than you need to print it out.

KirillTheThrill 02-14-2022 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Iregretnothing (Post 3372225)
When did you interview? I interviewed in October and the instructions didn’t mention any of those things. It just said bring logbooks and if you use an electronic version than you need to print it out.

Same, maybe they recently changed it? Doubtful. I signed each page in my logbook after having it professionally printed at Stables. I did have all my simulator times logged (just don’t apply it to your total time), but it wasn’t necessary. I never labeled anything. They appreciated that I had signed each page.

Iregretnothing 02-14-2022 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill (Post 3372232)
Same, maybe they recently changed it? Doubtful. I signed each page in my logbook after having it professionally printed at Stables. I did have all my simulator times logged (just don’t apply it to your total time), but it wasn’t necessary. I never labeled anything. They appreciated that I had signed each page.

I printed each page and signed it. I had the check rides highlighted and since I use an electronic logbook, I had my signed endorsements in a different section. Just for good measure I had my recurrent certificates in there too. I chose not to put in my simulator logs because they were horribly incomplete, especially the military ones. I put it all in a nice leather binder I got from staples. Also, for you military guys, the instructions say NOT to bring a summary sheet of flight time. Do yourself a favor and bring it with you because they will ask for it.

JTwift 02-14-2022 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Iregretnothing (Post 3372225)
When did you interview? I interviewed in October and the instructions didn’t mention any of those things. It just said bring logbooks and if you use an electronic version than you need to print it out.

recently…..

Iregretnothing 02-14-2022 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3372254)
recently…..

that’s a significant change.

Tropicav8r 02-15-2022 10:23 PM

Night and Instrument Time
 
I have a paper logbook which I’ve managed to keep updated through the years. The only issue is I stopped logging the night and actual instrument column since 2015. I have an interview coming up in the next 3 weeks. Will this be a problem when they check logbooks? I’m close to 7000tt of which 5500 is all 121

BlueScholar 02-18-2022 05:10 PM

I interviewed this year and there is no requirement to highlight check rides. 99.9% of my hours were mil time and they didn't ask a single question about my hours or even mention my logbook. I'm no expert, but if you have 7000 hours and 5000+ 121 hours I doubt they'll care cause it's clear you have some night and instrument time. I'd do the best I could to account for the hours, even if it means a reasonable estimate, be transparent about it and have a good answer ready if they ask about it.

Meekrob 02-20-2022 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3371450)
The interview instructions say to clearly identify ALL checkrides, fyi. Even 141 phase checks. AQP, 121, etc. ALL

Lmao
Filler

blizzue 02-20-2022 12:04 PM

5 years ago I tabbed each checkride and that’s it. I have never logged sim time except for .5 in a citation 500 level D sim that I got my high altitude endorsement in. Pilot mill.

KirillTheThrill 02-20-2022 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3375994)
5 years ago I tabbed each checkride and that’s it. I have never logged sim time except for .5 in a citation 500 level D sim that I got my high altitude endorsement in. Pilot mill.

And you probably got docked for it. If the directions say to tab each Checkride, then tab each Checkride. If they don’t, then don’t tab anything.

JTwift 02-20-2022 01:26 PM

Hey, y’all do what you want. That’s what the instructions say, though.

blizzue 02-20-2022 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill (Post 3375996)
And you probably got docked for it. If the directions say to tab each Checkride, then tab each Checkride. If they don’t, then don’t tab anything.

Uh. It said to tab checkrides. And that’s what I did. 5 year anniversary next month so I guess I didn’t get docked too bad.

edit- my point was, 5 year ago the instructions were to tab your checkrides.

KirillTheThrill 02-20-2022 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3376065)
Uh. It said to tab checkrides. And that’s what I did. 5 year anniversary next month so I guess I didn’t get docked too bad.

edit- my point was, 5 year ago the instructions were to tab your checkrides.

Ok that wasn’t meant to be a shot. I’m sure I was docked for some small stuff during the interview. Who cares? We got hired.

My only point is to follow the directions. If you go rogue, you’re probably getting docked.

blizzue 02-20-2022 02:54 PM

Yea, and I was simply giving an example of what I did while following the directions. My info is 5 years old.

NxNW 02-22-2022 08:54 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cd/e3/93/c...ovie-lines.jpg
this about sums up this interaction

blizzue 02-22-2022 10:00 AM

And then?

No and then.

NxNW 02-22-2022 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 3376959)
And then?

No and then.

touché.

Zoltan!

Pilot4000 03-02-2022 01:17 PM

Something posted on another spot said that people have been having issues with logbooks at the interviews, but they did not go into specifics. Does anyone know exactly what they are having issue with?

Venkman 05-23-2023 09:27 AM


The interview instructions say to clearly identify ALL checkrides, fyi. Even 141 phase checks. AQP, 121, etc. ALL

​​​​​​​And you probably got docked for it. If the directions say to tab each Checkride, then tab each Checkride. If they don’t, then don’t tab anything.
Sorry to bump an old-ish thread, but for anyone who just had a small panic attack like me - the above is bad/outdated information. The instructions literally say to identify "All PRIMARY checkrides (Private, Instrument, Commercial, CFI)." Don't know if that's new since last year or just bad info...but no, they do not want you tabbing every stage check and .297 ride you've had in your career. :rolleyes:


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