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buttonpusher68 06-22-2022 11:23 PM

73 v A320
 
Forgive me if this is posted elsewhere, I didn’t see it, but what is your take on NH choosing 73 v A320 in terms of QOL, trips, and seniority progression? It seems the 321
NEO/XLR trips will go senior? All things being equal, which one will offer the most schedule flexibility the fastest? Thanks!

threeighteen 06-22-2022 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3446200)
Forgive me if this is posted elsewhere, I didn’t see it, but what is your take on NH choosing 73 v A320 in terms of QOL, trips, and seniority progression? It seems the 321
NEO/XLR trips will go senior? All things being equal, which one will offer the most schedule flexibility the fastest? Thanks!

nobody has seen the NEO/XLR trips so nobody has any idea whether they’ll go senior or junior.

aTomatoFlames 06-23-2022 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3446200)
...All things being equal, which one will offer the most schedule flexibility the fastest? Thanks!

By far the 737, largest fleet, and from what I understand the most growth.

KnightNight 06-23-2022 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3446200)
Forgive me if this is posted elsewhere, I didn’t see it, but what is your take on NH choosing 73 v A320 in terms of QOL, trips, and seniority progression? It seems the 321
NEO/XLR trips will go senior? All things being equal, which one will offer the most schedule flexibility the fastest? Thanks!

737 is fastest movement, by time XLR comes you can probably hold widebody somewhere if you want international. 737 has more diverse trips, imo better destinations and shorter days.

That Guy 74 06-23-2022 05:01 AM

Fly the jet with 60s technology, cramped cockpit, and T-38 landing speeds.

Be a man.

TOGA Thrust 06-23-2022 05:16 AM

38 unfilled 737 Captains vacancies on the last snap, no unfilled on the Bus.

True the 737 has better flying, is a bigger fleet and has more growth but reserve rules can not be the only reason for the unfilled slots because the Bus also has reserve on the coasts.

ThumbsUp 06-23-2022 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3446229)
737 is fastest movement, by time XLR comes you can probably hold widebody somewhere if you want international. 737 has more diverse trips, imo better destinations and shorter days.

I see you say that a lot. The movement isn’t really faster, there’s just more of it, because there are more airframes. But relatively, it’s all the same. Half of the g-lines last month had more junior bus-FOs, but all were within a few seniority numbers of each other. And except for the most senior lines, they all look pretty similar, at least on the east coast.

To his question, though, the notion that really unproductive 321 3-days will go really senior might hold true for some time, but the allure of 90-hr LHR lines with min days off probably will wear off after a while.

But seriously 06-23-2022 07:44 AM

New hires today don’t need to be worried about the 321’s and Trans-Atlantic flying. You’ve still got a long time before even the first gets delivered. Then, it’s not like they’ll all just show up at once, they’ll get delivered over months/years.
Every plane that gets delivered will start on domestic proving runs.
At a minimum, every CA will need to do a supervised Atlantic leg before being qualified.
That means LCAs will need to get qualified first.
They’ll almost certainly fly all of the Atlantic flying out of a single base (DCA since it’s smaller?) at first.

My point is: It will be a long road before FO bidding on the Airbus is affected by that flying in a “normal” way.

sailingfun 06-23-2022 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by That Guy 74 (Post 3446264)
Fly the jet with 60s technology, cramped cockpit, and T-38 landing speeds.

Be a man.

You might take a look at A321 approach speeds.


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