TA: Management 5, Pilots 0
 

Management 5, Pilots 0

Wins for Management = 5

1) 6 months retro = Contract pays for itself

The contract is overdue 3.5 years. They’re advertising $1.3B over the two years of the TA.

[These are just guesses but they should be ballpark] Assuming the retro is worth $200M, that leaves around $1.1B for two years, or $550M per year. That was the approximate value of C2012. So, if we would have had this agreement on the amendable date in 2019, that’s 3 years x $550M or $1.65B. The company comes out ahead. They’re simply paying for your “raise” with the money they stole from you in 2019, 2020 and 2021.

Even if it’s only worth $450M, it still pays for itself. The company actually comes out ahead here as well.

Full retro for $450M x 3 = $1.35B vs TA for $1.3B over 2 years

2) Pilot Instructor problem solved

Kirby needs PIs, so now they raised the wages. They’re also allowing retirees to work as PIs for two years. You may recall that the instructor logjam was one of the obstacles to massive furloughs in 2020, so that obstacle is now removed.

3) LCA problem solved

Kirby needs LCAs, and the MEC delivered. See #2 above when furloughs come.

4) 1000 first day of reserve eliminated

Management has been after this for 10 years, and the MEC delivered for a few hours of add pay. Reserve abuse gets even worse. As an added bonus, management can reduce premium pay for senior pilots and increase the number of reserve lines for added reliability.

5) 14% is really 9%

A 5% raise is already BOUGHT AND PAID FOR in the Pandemic recovery LOA that was approved by 58% of United pilots in 2020. After 4 rolling quarters of profitability, the 5% raise kicks in. You can DO NOTHING and eventually get 5%.


Wins for Pilots = 0

Sure, LCAs and PIs win, but what about the pilot group as a whole?

For another 9%, we give away all of the above. Management will eventually get back the 9% and more, and rising medical costs will erode that as well.

This deal was all about solving Kirby’s LCA and PI problems, and the MEC even threw in the 1000 report on first day of reserve as an added bonus.

Management 5, Pilots 0

This isn’t accurate . You didn’t include the big wins the pilots got, like the free suitcase, $100 for the 1st class medical, and increased monthly parking allowance.

Damn. Lock me up, lock me up!

A free suitcase? Is it shiny?


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You forgot the increase in reimbursement for EKG. Neither the 1st class nor the EKG allowance cover my expenses, but they're increases.

This post in no way endorses the TA. I am a solid NO vote and I had low expectations.

You also forgot:
1) 10 cent per diem bump....yay
2) loss of some downtown layovers (caveat...some should be lost, like the downtown NYC with min ground time, but not ALL of them)
3) oh, and medical deductibles/out of pockets go up a bunch and increases now tied to raises

Number 3 is incorrect when you get past the bullet points and read the fine print this is not a good deal for LCA’s either. The override is only per leg, currently it’s per trip that conducts training. It also greatly decreases quality of life with the let the company pick your line with 13 days off maximum and it greatly reduces trip trading ability. So nope this does not fix the LCA issue.

Why is this TA sooo poopy?

Have you read it? It’s like Mgmts Christmas and birthday list, all rolled into one, signed sealed delivered and paid for by the pilot group.

When you see red letters that's Company Jesus talking.