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AlettaOcean 07-01-2022 11:13 AM

UA MEC lies its ass off on Twitter today!
 
Here’s today’s MEC tweet pretending that the AA deal was the reason they pulled support for TA2022.

They just can’t stop lying!😂😂😂

https://i.imgur.com/8jm5ymo.jpg

fadec 07-01-2022 11:15 AM

These are the same guys that helped us have a mandatory vax for the company's optics.

CQKSNT 07-01-2022 12:36 PM

Screwed by UALPA
 
“ Earlier this month, Isom said American would make a new offer to the carrier’s roughly 15,000 pilots once the details of United’s deal were released.”

Thanks a lot UALPA. You just screwed over everyone!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/american-airlines-offers-pilots-nearly-17percent-raises-in-new-contract-proposal-.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.google.Gmail.Shar eExtension

AlettaOcean 07-01-2022 01:01 PM

That’s what happens when you have an “association” vs a union. Those asshats haven’t polled us in over 4 years, then came out with this concessionary TA2022. The ballot closes 4 days prior to record Q2 results.

No picketing, no pressure. They told us at the beginning of the year that United needed to be “profitable” before getting an agreement. Then out of nowhere, it’s done!

This place is so freaking corrupt.

By the way, it’s ALPA UAL. Never head of it called UALPA. Either way, they suck.

Aquaticus 07-01-2022 01:06 PM

That is Americans new starting point from management. It isn't a TA. We will vote this down and everyone will make gains. We haven't screwed anyone as long as we send this back with a good turn out and an 80% plus no.

AxlF16 07-01-2022 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by CQKSNT (Post 3452910)
“ Earlier this month, Isom said American would make a new offer to the carrier’s roughly 15,000 pilots once the details of United’s deal were released.”

Thanks a lot UALPA. You just screwed over everyone!

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/30/american-airlines-offers-pilots-nearly-17percent-raises-in-new-contract-proposal-.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.google.Gmail.Shar eExtension

Maybe so.... but this is a heck of a lot better than their previous offer right? It's crap and should be rejected, but still a step up from their last position.

gzsg 07-01-2022 04:22 PM

Pattern bargaining?

They shut out all other ALPA carriers completely. Zero coordination.

Now they want to claim pattern bargaining from a non ALPA carrier?

This is the weakest and most disgusting ploy ever.

Then DePete jumps in and talks tough. He should have led and told the UAL MEC he would never ever sign that POS.

He’s worthless and weak. The best part is Insler thought this deal would catapult him to ALPA president.

Now he couldn’t be elected dog catcher. Interesting to see if he’s clueless enough to run.

JoePatroni 07-01-2022 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 3453034)
Now he couldn’t be elected dog catcher. Interesting to see if he’s clueless enough to run.

You can bet on it, he STILL thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. This piece of trash has his fingerprints all over it, even if his lackey actually sent It out. Insler needs to go back with the rabble that he looked down his nose at for six years.

CALPilotToo 07-02-2022 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3452930)
That is Americans new starting point from management. It isn't a TA. We will vote this down and everyone will make gains. We haven't screwed anyone as long as we send this back with a good turn out and an 80% plus no.

And a complete overhaul of the majority of the reps and the ENTIRE NC and most importantly the TK reps for voting to eliminate jobs within their own council to non members. WTF does that? Let me guess. I’ll be gone by the time it happens but I’ll get an extra 500K in the next 5 years before I go. Sell outs! Worse than scabs. At least a scab is not on the line with me.

And I’m aware for it not to be personal just business but when someone has been getting either FPL or FTFPL to represent me but take the opportunity to enrich themselves at my or our expense it is personal to me. Resign TK reps you voted to sell out for your own gain.

awax 07-03-2022 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by JoePatroni (Post 3453038)
You can bet on it, he STILL thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. This piece of trash has his fingerprints all over it, even if his lackey actually sent It out. Insler needs to go back with the rabble that he looked down his nose at for six years.

You’re talking about John Barton, right? Lol


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