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Old 08-01-2022, 11:37 AM
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20-P-4 At its sole discretion, the Company shall determine the specific staffing parameters and metrics that govern trip-trading. The Company agrees to share the general methodology and variables with the SSC, and shall allow the SSC to review specific staffing parameters and metrics at least monthly. The SSC shall be given the opportunity to consult with and make recommendations to the Company on trade criteria, system performance, system upgrades, and error resolution.
I’m sure like others, I am getting a little frustrated with how our reserve pool coverage has been in regards to trip trades. After looking at our CBA I was shocked to find that we had such vague language specifying reserve coverage numbers as it pertains to trip trading…

It seems to me the company arbitrarily has been juicing some reserve coverage requirements, in my anecdotal experience. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more commentary on this as it pertains to potential contract improvements in the future.

I know of a few other airlines that have specific staffing parameters built in to at the very least give the pilots some transparency in this process. Has this been an issue for anyone else besides me?
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Old 08-01-2022, 01:25 PM
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This needs to change. I cannot do anything to my schedule because in LA they randomly bump the min level to however many reserves they have. Some days this month we have 65 and still can’t trade anything.
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Yep welcome to Yo-nited, stand by for it to suck a lot more. I’d recommend apps at FedEx and UPS. This is a dumpster fire just starting.
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Old 08-01-2022, 05:26 PM
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This needs to change. I cannot do anything to my schedule because in LA they randomly bump the min level to however many reserves they have. Some days this month we have 65 and still can’t trade anything.

Try voting NO right after we recall MEC, NC
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Old 08-01-2022, 07:55 PM
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I’m sure like others, I am getting a little frustrated with how our reserve pool coverage has been in regards to trip trades. After looking at our CBA I was shocked to find that we had such vague language specifying reserve coverage numbers as it pertains to trip trading…

It seems to me the company arbitrarily has been juicing some reserve coverage requirements, in my anecdotal experience. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more commentary on this as it pertains to potential contract improvements in the future.

I know of a few other airlines that have specific staffing parameters built in to at the very least give the pilots some transparency in this process. Has this been an issue for anyone else besides me?
Almost daily the pool shows negative numbers. Sadly they can have 25 reserves with zero open pairings and still show negative 5 reserves.

The language needs to change, it should say, if it's legal to trade, it shall trade, until the real time window. One man's trash is another mans treasure.
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Old 08-01-2022, 11:38 PM
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Almost daily the pool shows negative numbers. Sadly they can have 25 reserves with zero open pairings and still show negative 5 reserves.

The language needs to change, it should say, if it's legal to trade, it shall trade, until the real time window. One man's trash is another mans treasure.
This is my biggest complaint about being here. It needs to change. Get a trip on some days you need off besides praying that someone picks the trip off your schedule you can use vacation to drop it or call in sick. I really hope it changes with this contract.
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Old 08-02-2022, 12:56 AM
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This is my biggest complaint about being here. It needs to change. Get a trip on some days you need off besides praying that someone picks the trip off your schedule you can use vacation to drop it or call in sick. I really hope it changes with this contract.
Sounds like we need to make our voice heard on this issue then because I’m hoping they can clear this up as well.
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Sounds like we need to make our voice heard on this issue then because I’m hoping they can clear this up as well.
yeah - this wasn’t even in the radar with the TUMI TA.
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yeah - this wasn’t even in the radar with the TUMI TA.
because the MEC/NC don’t worry about your QOL.
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Old 08-03-2022, 10:08 AM
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Yep welcome to Yo-nited, stand by for it to suck a lot more. I’d recommend apps at FedEx and UPS. This is a dumpster fire just starting.
I hear they’re hiring…..and if you’re senior to me then all the better
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