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Gooselives 08-30-2022 11:17 PM

Captain Unfilled and Rates
 
I think they could entice more pilots to bid captain if they raise captain rates a lot more than FOs.

JTwift 08-31-2022 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3487078)
I think they could entice more pilots to bid captain if they raise captain rates a lot more than FOs.

no, they need to make reserve suck way less. It’s not just the money.

Gooselives 08-31-2022 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3487087)
no, they need to make reserve suck way less. It’s not just the money.

Any ideas?

serce 08-31-2022 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3487093)
Any ideas?

How about reserve rules at least as good as the regionals? I am kind of joking but really... I don't know of any other airline out there with global reserve.

elmetal 08-31-2022 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by serce (Post 3487101)
How about reserve rules at least as good as the regionals? I am kind of joking but really... I don't know of any other airline out there with global reserve.

It's not even just that. No limits on SC conversions, the fact that FSB even exists is atrocious, list goes on.

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FlewNavy 08-31-2022 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3487093)
Any ideas?

More days off where you are untouchable by the company and have enough time before you start a work block to plan/execute a commute from anywhere you choose to live. Period. Days off per month for a RSV needs to be the same as the average days off for a line holder.

The NC negotiated for "reserve improvements" interpreted to mean "increased transparency and predictability". They used predictive human behavior in response to financial incentive to get the UPA changes they thought would achieve those results but it effectively is still a gamble that the group would have to accept and see how it plays out. There were no guarantees of the outcome.

I don't want a contract that incentivizes certain behaviors over others to achieve a result - I want a contract that specifically says what the company can/can't do to mess with my life on reserve.

hummingbear 08-31-2022 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by FlewNavy (Post 3487131)
More days off where you are untouchable by the company and have enough time before you start a work block to plan/execute a commute from anywhere you choose to live. Period. Days off per month for a RSV needs to be the same as the average days off for a line holder.

The NC negotiated for "reserve improvements" interpreted to mean "increased transparency and predictability". They used predictive human behavior in response to financial incentive to get the UPA changes they thought would achieve those results but it effectively is still a gamble that the group would have to accept and see how it plays out. There were no guarantees of the outcome.

I don't want a contract that incentivizes certain behaviors over others to achieve a result - I want a contract that specifically says what the company can/can't do to mess with my life on reserve.

It needs to be flexible in 2 ways- scheduling & earning. Like lineholders, RSVs have disparate goals. Some want more time off, some want to hustle & make $$$. If you only focus on 1, you’re going to make the other group unhappy. TA1 mostly focused on the hustlers by adding credit to certain assignments. This is fine but where they went wrong was in allowing that those assignments be mandatory for all.

Increase add pay for early assignments, but make it APU only. Or, allow for bidding “in base RSV” blocks (early start late finish) that credit higher than “commuter RSV” blocks (1000 start 1700 finish). SC & FSB are useful- improve add pay but add default frequency caps that can be waived by the pilot. Add the option of bidding different RSV schedules for different credit. (16 days off at 70MPG up to 10 off at 90MPG, for example.)

Ultimately what you’re going to find is some guys will bid max everything & chase add pay while others will take min credit to stay home more. Leave it flexible to the pilot & many more will start taking open upgrades.

TFAYD 08-31-2022 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Gooselives (Post 3487093)
Any ideas?

5 hours MDG or better actual flight time for each reserve day

Max of 16 reserve days

Ability to trade reserve days by computer

TFAYD 08-31-2022 06:09 AM

The problem is that any improvements apply to all reserves across the system with associated high costs while we have “only” 100 unfilled CA spots in select bases

part of the challenge is that our pay cannot be differentiated by location - the way it is done anywhere else incl the military and gov jobs

hummingbear 08-31-2022 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by TFAYD (Post 3487181)
The problem is that any improvements apply to all reserves across the system with associated high costs while we have “only” 100 unfilled CA spots in select bases

part of the challenge is that our pay cannot be differentiated by location - the way it is done anywhere else incl the military and gov jobs

Not so much a challenge as a simple reality. Certain places- like SFO- are always going to be commuter heavy; so figure out how to make that lifestyle more sustainable while rewarding those who do live in base with extra incentives to pick up the slack. TA1 did neither well. The approach was basically “Here’s a little extra $ in exchange for making RSV commuting even less sustainable”, which is a big part of what made it such a colossal flop.


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