It’s all basically the same just delta give PS if they are profitable we use that money to get you a hotel, 90 hrs of pay per month in training as. Newhire, and per diem. We pay more the first 6-12 weeks you are here and give you lodging saving you that cost vs delta gives you profit sharing. It washes out in the end. The only people who come up short are the January hires who “might come out better if they got profit sharing” but the person starting after June is probably coming out ahead at UaL.

Thanks for the explanations, much appreciated!

I really hope people aren't selecting, even remotely, their "until retirement" airline based on small pay differences for the first 3 months of indoc/training.

LAX is a great base to work out of. Not as much widebody flying as I'd like, but Asia has been slow to open up travel, so I think it'll eventually come back. Tons of narrowbody slots though with a LOT of movement. Guys are holding narrowbody captain within a year of hire.

Plus, dudes over here are generally just way more laid back and chill to fly with.

Middle aged surfers abound

I say: if you choose UAL.., a lot of the older timers will be gone by the time it matters to you… all this fresh blood at UAL is making UAL GREAT AGAIN

Just to update your out of date info, Delta now provides lodging to all the new hires as well, during this latest hiring binge.

Cool. I don’t work for Delta and didn’t know you guys were doing that. I think you missed my point. Compensation between the two companies is almost the same first year so don’t get caught up in something that doesn’t matter.

TBT we’re essentially the same with differences in the margins. After a 30+ year career it’s all the same. I’d pick the airline for it’s long established bases and where you want to live. Simple as that.

I understood your point, just trying to make sure you had accurate details.

If you get Jan class date during a covid year, probably better at UAL.

If you get Jan class during 2018 type year, probably initially better at DAL.

As you stated though, all things considered, this is about item #69 that Id be considering with a 30yr plus career ahead.