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01110011 11-22-2022 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 3535954)
You keep justifying it with the argument that someone can steal the trade, but its not about that. Again someone may get into a base they couldn't hold otherwise. If you couldn't hold it on a bid you shouldn't be there, at least that's my opinion and the opinion of the NC also apparently.

Glad they used their brainpower on such an important section of the contract :rolleyes:.

No change to the PBS/G-line logic though that robs seniority from just about everyone monthly instead of a few fringe cases.

Mitch Rapp 11-22-2022 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3535958)
Glad they used their brainpower on such an important section of the contract :rolleyes:.

No change to the PBS/G-line logic though that robs seniority from just about everyone monthly instead of a few fringe cases.

This is the same mentality that the NC used for years to avoid us getting Bad Day Worse Day. The realty is there are a few people in high places and influence within ALPA Leadership that have angst against it (see GJ - EWR CA Rep) and kept the airline hostage for their little crusade.

gingerbread89 11-22-2022 05:25 PM

I really appreciate the info, thank you everyone. I have no qualms at all bidding 737/320 to get closer to family and drive to work, the rest will come later.

bmrd 11-22-2022 07:05 PM

I may have missed it, but what is upgrade time in IAH? I’m also looking at United as I want to live on the north side of Houston. I hear all the time about unfilled captain vacancies and 1 year upgrades at United

82spukram 11-22-2022 07:59 PM

NB captain went to 12507. That’s about 18-24 months in IAH. Before that bid it was closer to 6 years. Just over a year ago it was around 10. So it’s rapidly changing.

bmrd 11-22-2022 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by 82spukram (Post 3536351)
NB captain went to 12507. That’s about 18-24 months in IAH. Before that bid it was closer to 6 years. Just over a year ago it was around 10. So it’s rapidly changing.

so if I’m understanding you properly, 1.5-2 years on property and declining rapidly?

82spukram 11-22-2022 08:58 PM

My guess is some captain vacancy’s will go unfilled in the next year.

bmrd 11-22-2022 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by 82spukram (Post 3536375)
My guess is some captain vacancy’s will go unfilled in the next year.

well I appreciate your guess but I’m mostly just curious what upgrade is at IAH today. The most junior captain TODAY. You said 18-24 months in IAH. Ppl are getting it out of training.

So the most junior captain in IAH is 1.5 - 2 years on property?

Knotcher 11-22-2022 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by bmrd (Post 3536386)
well I appreciate your guess but I’m mostly just curious what upgrade is at IAH today. The most junior captain TODAY. You said 18-24 months in IAH. Ppl are getting it out of training.

So the most junior captain in IAH is 1.5 - 2 years on property?


Jeez...when I started working here people were happy just to get hired.

Brickfire 11-23-2022 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by bmrd (Post 3536386)
So the most junior captain in IAH is 1.5 - 2 years on property?

Yes.

United has a 1 year (and 500 hour) minimum for upgrade. Several bids ago there were NB captain slots that went unfilled in junior bases. Put another way, anyone could upgrade with the minimum time. The "time to upgrade" was just a function of whoever was the most junior person to request it.

A couple bids ago those unfilled slots progressed to Chicago and Denver. On the most recent bid United awarded MANY more captain slots in Houston than they advertised because that was the only place left with eligible bidders. Nothing went unfilled in Houston but they awarded down to rough seniority level other bases saw with unfilled slots. It's very likely another bid will put the upgrade time right at minimums for all hubs.

There are also MANY more captains than FO's in IAH which should be interesting.


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