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ERAUAV8TR 12-07-2022 01:17 PM

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Why are the meetings at the most expensive steak restaurants and golf courses?

Snooter 12-07-2022 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3546110)
Why are the meetings at the most expensive steak restaurants and golf courses?

Because pilots who would normally fly the line and make a quarter million dollars a year but are now desk jockeys don’t generally patronize Golden Corral.

JoePatroni 12-07-2022 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3546110)
Why are the meetings at the most expensive steak restaurants and golf courses?

The Renaissance in EWR has neither.

Barley 12-07-2022 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Setopbug (Post 3545525)
Who's bashing? My union negotiated a concessionary contract and then turned around and tried to sell it to me. I've lost any faith I had in their ability to look out for my interests. I don't have to step up and volunteer, I've done that plenty in the past, I pay my dues.

Because I pay my dues, I don't have to be quiet. I deserve better than the crappy representation I've received. Not angry, just disappointed.

And working harder for less, thanks, ALPA!

I bet you could do way better representing yourself without a union.

Barley 12-07-2022 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 3546110)
Why are the meetings at the most expensive steak restaurants and golf courses?

You could too if you hadn’t gotten a $250k degree in derptyderp at a private school in a dumpster-fire town.

Setopbug 12-07-2022 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by Barley (Post 3546283)
I bet you could do way better representing yourself without a union.

Nope. Don't have talents in those areas. Never said I could do better. Never said I didn't want a union. I've supported ALPA with much more than just dues money, volunteering extensively on previous contracts. I currently support this pilot group in other areas. I work incredibly hard at it and don't leave anything on the table. I can honestly say I'll leave this place better than I found it.


Originally Posted by Snooter (Post 3545536)
So recall votes have been initiated the lead negotiator of the Tumi resigned, what more do you want? How about you come back and be a part of the team instead of simping for SK?

How about you learn how to read? Not simping for Kirby. Honestly, I'm not even really *****ing about the union, just pointing out that I'll ***** if I damn well want to. They're behind the power curve, but they've shoved the levers up. Eventually they'll not only have the jet under control but will have assessed it too.

Mooner 12-08-2022 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3545926)
Unfortunately the smart people that would be good in these jobs realize the thankless job that it is and hours of personal time it will absorb. You will spend hours of your night on the phone explaining how someones conspiracy theory on xyz isn't accurate only to see them post the same mistruths on an online forum the very next day. The people who are left wanting this job are the politician type, the power hungry or the conspiracy theorist from the above example. I am all for service but we have lost control of the vocal minority at meetings and online discussions are filled with vitriol and very little touching on reality. It isn't just our association either.

Exactly why I quit doing ALPA work. Spot on.

Snooter 12-08-2022 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by Setopbug;[url=tel:3546340
3546340[/url]]Nope. Don't have talents in those areas. Never said I could do better. Never said I didn't want a union. I've supported ALPA with much more than just dues money, volunteering extensively on previous contracts. I currently support this pilot group in other areas. I work incredibly hard at it and don't leave anything on the table. I can honestly say I'll leave this place better than I found it.



How about you learn how to read? Not simping for Kirby. Honestly, I'm not even really *****ing about the union, just pointing out that I'll ***** if I damn well want to. They're behind the power curve, but they've shoved the levers up. Eventually they'll not only have the jet under control but will have assessed it too.

so what exactly are you doing then? Just talking?

That Guy 74 12-08-2022 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Snooter (Post 3545421)
Some of you people need to either run for office to fix what you’re upset about or **** and gtfo. Our union may not be perfect but they are our union and I appreciate their efforts, even the ones who are slightly misguided.

Be sure to go and thank the individuals who brought you the Tumi TA then.

I would love to know what the company brought to the negotiating committee where they said, "ABSOLUTELY NOT! The minimum we will accept is 0600 day one show on reserve, a measly 9.5% raise, and reassignments for line holders nearly at company whim."

To say you appreciate their efforts as of late is akin to the woman who suffers domestic abuse and believes she deserves it.

Wake up.

That Guy 74 12-08-2022 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by Snooter (Post 3545536)
So recall votes have been initiated the lead negotiator of the Tumi resigned, what more do you want? How about you come back and be a part of the team instead of simping for SK?

Tool or troll.

Not sure which, but....whatever.


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