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stang 12-26-2022 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=BobbyLeeSwagger;3559992]Why is this thread still reasonably on the rails? Unsat[/QUOTE

Willing to get the yellowfever vax but still fighting the covid one is a mystery to me with these threads. I am sure there are reactions and reasons to not get the yellowfever one but it's known UAL requires it too.

WacoQCF 12-26-2022 02:24 PM

If you are not vaccinated just request a Reasonable Accommodation for your interview, and same if granted a CJO. However currently all those with approved accommodations and a CJO will remain in the hiring pool for an unknown time period. Feel free to reach out in a private message if you need more details.

Bestglide 12-26-2022 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=stang;3560040]

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3559992)
Why is this thread still reasonably on the rails? Unsat[/QUOTE

Willing to get the yellowfever vax but still fighting the covid one is a mystery to me with these threads. I am sure there are reactions and reasons to not get the yellowfever one but it's known UAL requires it too.

The difference is you don’t need the yellow fever to be hired, only for certain cities. Plus good or bad
the yellow fever shot has been around for a while.

There are many reasons to not want the Covid jab as more unflattering info comes out every day and
we still won’t know the long term effects for years to come.
Like anything else if you feel it works and is safe then all the power to ya. Take the 100th booster.
As for myself and others we have a different opinion. I don’t know why some people can’t respect that?

BobbyLeeSwagger 12-26-2022 03:36 PM

Stop with the civil conversation!

snackysmores 12-26-2022 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=stang;3560040]

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3559992)
Why is this thread still reasonably on the rails? Unsat[/QUOTE

Willing to get the yellowfever vax but still fighting the covid one is a mystery to me with these threads. I am sure there are reactions and reasons to not get the yellowfever one but it's known UAL requires it too.

YF vax has been around for decades and doesn't give people heart attacks, myocarditis, pericarditis, strokes, blood clots, GBS, and a plethora of other neurological disorders. Risking all that for an experimental shot that will not prevent you from getting a virus that has a 1% chance of killing you is not effective risk management.

But seriously 12-26-2022 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=Bestglide;3560071]

Originally Posted by stang (Post 3560040)

The difference is you don’t need the yellow fever to be hired, only for certain cities. Plus good or bad
the yellow fever shot has been around for a while.

There are many reasons to not want the Covid jab as more unflattering info comes out every day and
we still won’t know the long term effects for years to come.
Like anything else if you feel it works and is safe then all the power to ya. Take the 100th booster.
As for myself and others we have a different opinion. I don’t know why some people can’t respect that?

You do need the Yellow Fever vax to get hired. They say it everywhere in their literature. You must have it by day 2 or 3 of Indoc.

Excargodog 12-26-2022 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=stang;3560040]

Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger (Post 3559992)
Why is this thread still reasonably on the rails? Unsat[/QUOTE

Willing to get the yellowfever vax but still fighting the covid one is a mystery to me with these threads. I am sure there are reactions and reasons to not get the yellowfever one but it's known UAL requires it too.


The case fatality rate of severe yellow fever is 50% or higher. The pathogenesis and pathophysiology of the disease are poorly understood and have not been the subject of modern clinical research. There is no specific treatment for YF, making the management of YF patients extremely problematic.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15487593/


For COVID-19, on the other hand…



We report IFR estimates for April 15, 2020, to January 1, 2021, the period before the introduction of vaccines and widespread evolution of variants. We found substantial heterogeneity in the IFR by age, location, and time. Age-specific IFR estimates form a J shape, with the lowest IFR occurring at age 7 years (0·0023%, 95% uncertainty interval [UI] 0·0015–0·0039) and increasing exponentially through ages 30 years (0·0573%, 0·0418–0·0870), 60 years (1·0035%, 0·7002–1·5727), and 90 years (20·3292%, 14·6888–28·9754)
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...867-1/fulltext

I have from the start recommended the immunization for anyone’s INITIAL exposure to COVID-19. I still do.

Except:

1. Very few unimmunized people still are around who have not ALREADY either been immunized of been infected - at least everywhere outside of China.
2. There is a serious difference between a disease like yellow fever with a 50% mortality and a disease like COVID-19 which INITIALLY had 0.06% mortality in 30 year olds and which has now decreased since that time.

There are a LOT of diseases we have good immunizations to prevent that we don’t give shots for except in very specific cases. The efficacy of Japanese B Encephalitis immunization is over 99%, but in areas where it is endemic almost everyone who lives there had it as a kid and are immune and travelers only have about a 1 in a million chance of getting it on a trip. So do you immunize everyone going to that part of the world?

https://i.ibb.co/Mg2w6Nk/8-B2726-ED-...9-B73-F0-D.jpg

So yeah, I AM immunized against yellow fever and NOT immunized against Japanese B encephalitis because they have greatly differing risks. That isn’t unreasonable, just like most animal control people are immunized against rabies and the rest of us aren’t.

Why are you so concerned about another adult making a different decision than yours about something that won’t affect you even if they are wrong?

ThumbsUp 12-26-2022 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 3560090)

YF vax has been around for decades and doesn't give people heart attacks, myocarditis, pericarditis, strokes, blood clots, GBS, and a plethora of other neurological disorders. Risking all that for an experimental shot that will not prevent you from getting a virus that has a 1% chance of killing you is not effective risk management.

Don't forget that they make you magnetic too. The strange thing about GBS is that the people getting it in higher numbers than the average population were taking the J&J vaccine. The bro shot was supposed to be the way out of the "experimentalness" of the mRNA vaccines but had worse outcomes.

snackysmores 12-26-2022 05:07 PM

Here's a 200mb, 124 page compendium of people's experiences shortly after mRNA. For your perusal. Hopefully someday this insanity will end.

RatchetA10 12-26-2022 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by snackysmores (Post 3560121)
Here's a 200mb, 124 page compendium of people's experiences shortly after mRNA. For your perusal. Hopefully someday this insanity will end.

My computer needs 8 more vaccines after following this link. On the bright side "Emma" (25) is only 869 meters from me...


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